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houseofboyd Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2014 Posts: 613 Location: Flatwoods, Ky
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:27 am Post subject: Lug Question |
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My hubs are drilled for both 4 lug and 5 lug. (This was done before I purchased the car) I'm currently running Porsche Gas Burners but thinking about going back to stock VW rims (4 lug). Looking at the studs currently installed on the hubs, they have a hex style "hole" in them. Can I remove these with a hex (allen) wrench? If so, are they the standard "lefty loosey, righty tighty"?
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zmichael84 Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2016 Posts: 129 Location: Murrieta, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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houseofboyd wrote: |
Looking at the studs currently installed on the hubs, they have a hex style "hole" in them. Can I remove these with a hex (allen) wrench? If so, are they the standard "lefty loosey, righty tighty"?
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Yes, they are threaded in. If it were me, I'd replace them with the proper 4 lug drums/rotors; that's kinda sketchy the way it was done. |
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houseofboyd Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2014 Posts: 613 Location: Flatwoods, Ky
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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zmichael84 wrote: |
houseofboyd wrote: |
Looking at the studs currently installed on the hubs, they have a hex style "hole" in them. Can I remove these with a hex (allen) wrench? If so, are they the standard "lefty loosey, righty tighty"?
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Yes, they are threaded in. If it were me, I'd replace them with the proper 4 lug drums/rotors; that's kinda sketchy the way it was done. |
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zmichael84 Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2016 Posts: 129 Location: Murrieta, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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houseofboyd wrote: |
So the lefty loosey righty tighty rule applies...? |
Yup. Most probably use loc-tite on them, so might take a bit to break them loose |
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houseofboyd Samba Member
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Fman Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2018 Posts: 151 Location: Nor Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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houseofboyd wrote: |
zmichael84 wrote: |
houseofboyd wrote: |
So the lefty loosey righty tighty rule applies...? |
Yup. Most probably use loc-tite on them, so might take a bit to break them loose |
Ok, thanks for the info.. |
Were you able to break them free? Red loctite requires about 230 lbs of torque to break free. I am not sure those studs could withstand that much force without breaking.
I am getting ready to do a stud conversion on my wide 5, I am thinking blue loctite will be a better option just incase I ever needed to replace a stud. |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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That top hole in the top picture looks oblong.
Personally I would drill out the holes and use press in studs, no reason not to and much more secure in mounting the wheels.
I can't wait to replace the thread in studs for mounting my Centerlines and shanked nuts with some better press in studs. I hate these thread in adapter studs.
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20380 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Lug Question |
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slalombuggy wrote: |
That top hole in the top picture looks oblong.
Personally I would drill out the holes and use press in studs, no reason not to and much more secure in mounting the wheels.
I can't wait to replace the thread in studs for mounting my Centerlines and shanked nuts with some better press in studs. I hate these thread in adapter studs.
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Yes ... Buddy had thread in studs (EMPI) in his buggy, out of 20 at least 15 failed in one way or another... It took almost two hours to get one lug nut off.....
I would use catalogue below to get proper studs for your application.... Start looking in section 10...
https://www.dormanproducts.com/flipbook/dorman/automotive-hardware/2006-automotive-hardware.pdf
Also I would use piloted end reamer to make a flat surface for stud to seat against inside drum, and follow suggestion to use hydraulic press ti install... Trying to pull them in by using threads is just a exercise inb futility...
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