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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:29 pm    Post subject: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

Are the backs/insides of Beetle bumpers chrome or painted? I have a 1967 Beetle (Deluxe US Spec), and the back/inside of each bumper looks like a dull gray - I'm thinking either unpolished chrome, or perhaps L91 paint.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

painted - see this discussion
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344316
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

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painted - see this discussion
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344316


Yes, I saw that one, but that thread's subject was bumper support brackets, and only in passing incorrectly states Garwood says the back of the bumper is painted (as far as I can see in my copy, he only talks about the entire standard bumper being painted, or the color of the brackets - nothing about the back of the deluxe bumpers). I was trying to find confirmation.

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67 Beetle 1300 and 1500 bumper brackets and back side of bumper are L91 Chrome Silver, as per JT Garwood.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

As a follow up, I know aftermarket bumpers (such as WW) are painted in the back, but I'm wondering if OEM ones are.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

Yes- Silver paint in the inside- same as upright support tubes and brackets.

I also use the wheel paint for its durability- but I rub it with a coarse towel when dry to knock off the excessive gloss. It also slightly dulls the metallic sheen- resulting in very factory-looking finish.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

Grey Hammerite paint is very similar to the one VW used inside the bumpers.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

Original VW bumpers are painted silver on the inner surface. I have NOS boxed bumpers and that's how they are.

WW's L91 silver is the correct match

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=PAINTL91
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

The back of the front bumper was painted, but not so on the rear bumper. At least that is how mine is, and almost every stock Bug I have seen from this era is like that.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

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Original VW bumpers are painted silver on the inner surface. I have NOS boxed bumpers and that's how they are.

WW's L91 silver is the correct match

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=PAINTL91


That paint color is spot on. I was going to say I'd love to see your bumpers, but it occurred to me that might sound odd Shocked . Do all of them have the little VW logo stamped in them? I've seen one that says "Made in West Germany" but no VW logo; not sure if that's NOS or aftermarket.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

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The back of the front bumper was painted, but not so on the rear bumper. At least that is how mine is, and almost every stock Bug I have seen from this era is like that.

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Both front and rear were painted on both of my '67s and my '65. Check your non painted bumper blade and see if there's a little VW logo stamped on it toward the center of the bumper backside. It may be aftermarket. Easy to tell if it's Brazilian aftermarket given the rubber grommet between the blade and overriders they used.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

67 Florida Deluxe wrote:
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Original VW bumpers are painted silver on the inner surface. I have NOS boxed bumpers and that's how they are.

WW's L91 silver is the correct match

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=PAINTL91


That paint color is spot on. I was going to say I'd love to see your bumpers, but it occurred to me that might sound odd Shocked . Do all of them have the little VW logo stamped in them? I've seen one that says "Made in West Germany" but no VW logo; not sure if that's NOS or aftermarket.


LoL I'll show you my rear Smile

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yes it has a VW logo, 1VW1 its a 1961 bumper in perfect shape. VW Porn.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

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LoL I'll show you my rear Smile

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yes it has a VW logo, 1VW1 its a 1961 bumper in perfect shape. VW Porn. (No doubt!)

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Thanks for showing your rear; very nice! (ahem... Embarassed ) Interesting, though, it comes with the mounting brackets and supports painted in black when they were silver (WW "Chrome" paint) from the factory. I looked at pics of my former 1960 Karmann Kab and they were silver. That wouldn't stop me from buying your bumper, though Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

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The back of the front bumper was painted, but not so on the rear bumper. At least that is how mine is, and almost every stock Bug I have seen from this era is like that.

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Both front and rear were painted on both of my '67s and my '65. Check your non painted bumper blade and see if there's a little VW logo stamped on it toward the center of the bumper backside. It may be aftermarket. Easy to tell if it's Brazilian aftermarket given the rubber grommet between the blade and overriders they used.


Both front and rear bumpers on my Bug are painted, neither is non painted.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

From a suggestion from another person, what do you all think about the idea the backs may have been unchromed nickle?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

I agree that the bumper blade backs (front and rear) are painted the same color as the inside of the uprights ...and that there's no sense to the idea that 'deluxe' model bumper blades would be any different than 'standard' model bumper blades. That would be a very strange thing for VW to do back in the day.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

67 Florida Deluxe wrote:
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LoL I'll show you my rear Smile

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yes it has a VW logo, 1VW1 its a 1961 bumper in perfect shape. VW Porn. (No doubt!)

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Thanks for showing your rear; very nice! (ahem... Embarassed ) Interesting, though, it comes with the mounting brackets and supports painted in black when they were silver (WW "Chrome" paint) from the factory. I looked at pics of my former 1960 Karmann Kab and they were silver. That wouldn't stop me from buying your bumper, though Smile


So the uprights and bracket color changed mid-year I believe in '61 to silver, this is a replacement bumper and my former VW partsman friend told me replacement bumpers came with black brackets.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

my early in year model build 61 Bug had black overrider supports and bumper brackets. I repainted them like original, black when I was a kid, still black today, Once black, you dont go back, at least that is what the originalist said.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

Digger89L wrote:
I agree that the bumper blade backs (front and rear) are painted the same color as the inside of the uprights ...and that there's no sense to the idea that 'deluxe' model bumper blades would be any different than 'standard' model bumper blades. That would be a very strange thing for VW to do back in the day.


While the structure of the bumper would be the same between the standard (economy) and deluxe (nicer) bumpers, it makes sense to me that they may be treated differently (one chromed, and the other not). The standard Beetle had very little chrome on it. From Garwood (1967 color matrix) below. My emphasis added.

"*STANDARD MODELS (1200) WERE OFFERED IN THESE COLORS-ALONG WITH L87 PEARL WHITE, WHICH HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE DELUXE BODY COLOR LIST FOR 1967. BUMPERS, OUTSIDE HANDLES AND HUB CAPS WERE ALL PAINTED THE SAME L328 STEEL GRAY AS IN 1966. STANDARD SUNROOF MODELS STILL HAD PVC FABRIC SLIDING TOPS INSTEAD OF THE DELUXE'S STEEL TOP. THE PVC TOP COLORS MATCHED THE BODY ON THESE EUROPEAN MODELS"
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

I don't remember the brackets and such being black on either my '65 or '67. Like the bumper backs, they were a dull silver-grey. I painted mine bright silver and then saw some original cars and realized it was a little too shiny.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Backs of Beetle bumpers painted? Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
I don't remember the brackets and such being black on either my '65 or '67. Like the bumper backs, they were a dull silver-grey. I painted mine bright silver and then saw some original cars and realized it was a little too shiny.


on my rear bumper, the back side is chrome, front side is painted.
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