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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:08 pm Post subject: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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Please don't flame me too much.
I need some help choosing tyre size and was surprised to not find a vintage speed topic on this issue and figured there'd be some interest in this topic.
I've a set of 5.5wide 15" mangles Porsche style rims.
I'm chasing this look in terms of tyre filling the guard gap. I am stock height.
But can't decide on a tyre size.
I'm considering 195/65/15 maybe. Was also suggested a 205.
Keep in mind they're 5.5 wide. Not stock width.
What options are there for a vintage looking sidewall? _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
1972 1302
1973 type2a
1957 type11
2005 Caddy panel van
2006 Golf R32 |
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SteveW Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2004 Posts: 176 Location: Nottinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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It's not exactly the same as I wanted to keep mine more period sizing. I'm running 155r15 Vredestein Sprint Classic tyres on 4.5" 356 rims. I have 20mm 'carrera' spacers on the rear.
_________________ Steve
1951 Type 1 11c - Chestnut Brown
1995 T3 - South African RHD Microbus / 2.6i |
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gimmesomeshelter Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: San Carlos, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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Check out Pirelli Cinturato CN36's.
https://www.cinturato.net/pirelli-cinturato-cn36.html
Cheers,
Paul _________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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Fishynos72 wrote: |
I'm chasing this look in terms of tyre filling the guard gap. I am stock height. |
there is no way you're going to fill the fender gap unless you run much larger tires, in which case your final gearing will be all out of whack. You'll need a bigger engine to turn the tires, or lower your gear ratios.
Why not install drop spindles and lower the rear just slightly? it won't look 'slammed' and it will handle even better. _________________ drive your split. |
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PeteSC Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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sled wrote: |
Fishynos72 wrote: |
I'm chasing this look in terms of tyre filling the guard gap. I am stock height. |
there is no way you're going to fill the fender gap unless you run much larger tires, in which case your final gearing will be all out of whack. You'll need a bigger engine to turn the tires, or lower your gear ratios.
Why not install drop spindles and lower the rear just slightly? it won't look 'slammed' and it will handle even better. |
Yep.....Erik T's '58 with 2.5" drop spindles with the Pirelli's two posts above:
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PeteSC Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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These Dunlop's are a nice, vintage tire. I believe they're run on the Chris Runge cars and look great w/ 356 rims. I'm not sure if they're DOT approved for street use though.
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/us/dunlop-l-section-cr65-tyre-242447/ |
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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I think you're right about the ride height.
I've just been offered some vintage style kleber tyres. Im going to look at them tonight. _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
1972 1302
1973 type2a
1957 type11
2005 Caddy panel van
2006 Golf R32 |
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motofly196 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1467 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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Post up some pictures if you get the Klebers. I haven't seen these tires since the 90's...I used to run them on my bus. Their tire pattern is similar to Michelin tires. Are they new, or REALLY old? |
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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I was told they're new. I've not idea the age stamp on them. I've not even seen them, nor could I find a photo online. _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
1972 1302
1973 type2a
1957 type11
2005 Caddy panel van
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JeeWee Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2011 Posts: 120 Location: Garijp, the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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AVON CR6ZZ in 185/70R15 all round! amazing tire! _________________ 1192CC WW okrasa
48,2 DIN PS (58SAE HP)@4430rpm - 83Nm@3610rpm |
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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So plan deviation/ plan B, as I haven't heard back on these vintage style tyres.
My work had 2 scrap 195/65/15 and 2 185/60/15
So for the hell of it I'll give them a shot Tomorrow. Make sure they clear everything as I'm not really sure the offset of these rims.
They're definitely not the look I was going for. But they may help me choose sizes if I end up going the Pirelli or other recommendations above _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
1972 1302
1973 type2a
1957 type11
2005 Caddy panel van
2006 Golf R32 |
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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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if you're stock height, those front tires are going to look tiny and give you a lot of fender gap. the rears might work ok though _________________ drive your split. |
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vwchad Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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I'm currently shopping for new tires as well, so glad to see this discussion.
I picked up some 4.5" wide Vintage 190 wheels and have been looking at tires. I've narrowed it down to Pirelli CN36 in 185/70-15s all around or Vredstein Sprint Classic 155SR15s up front and 185/70-15s in back.
Erik T's '58 is really what I've used as my guide for wheel width and tire sizing as the look he's achieved is excellent, IMO. I did come across a car at a local show this summer with the Vredstein combination I mentioned above though, and it looked pretty good. Definitely a bit more clearance up front. Still haven't settled on which ones yet, but I think it will be one of those.
Decisions, decisions...... |
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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sled wrote: |
if you're stock height, those front tires are going to look tiny and give you a lot of fender gap. the rears might work ok though |
You're 110% the fronts are a joke. A 3 inch drop would be needed
Due to time crunch this is plan B. I'm dropping several bags of Cement in the front and behind the rear seat as a temporary lowering method.
Post show I think I'll grab some drop spindles and some Pirelli / Michelin tyres in the right size _________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
1972 1302
1973 type2a
1957 type11
2005 Caddy panel van
2006 Golf R32 |
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Fishynos72 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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First couple of test drives. Gave the front a 120kg drop to suit these temporary tyres.
_________________ Collector of all things Volkswagen, Hazet and Matra.
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1973 type2a
1957 type11
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norris Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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greek_tony Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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Nice!!!!
Are those the alloy Porsche 356 style wheels? _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia - Sold
May 53 Ragtop - Resto started
October 65 Fastback - Almost there. |
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norris Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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They are the Vintage 190 wheels. |
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greek_tony Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Tyres for the vintage racer/ vintage race look |
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norris wrote: |
They are the Vintage 190 wheels. |
Nice!!! What are they like? _________________ 1963 Karmann Ghia - Sold
May 53 Ragtop - Resto started
October 65 Fastback - Almost there. |
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norris Samba Member
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