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67 Sunroof
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Ok so I’m beginning to assemble the crank and noticed that the gland nut is a different size than the stock one. Stock is 36mm and i think cb is 37-38...
No big deal. But.
My torque master tool tool I bought to tighten down the gland nut is also 36mm. Haha.
Not sure what I am asking here but I guess I’ll just buy another stock gland nut or use the cb and have to find another socket and find a way of torquing down the gland nut without the torque tool I bought. Wasted money I guess.
I guess I’ll just get a new gland nut instead. |
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grandpa red
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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I know what your saying...that tool is not cheap but works good.
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KROC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| 67 Sunroof wrote: |
Ok so I’m beginning to assemble the crank and noticed that the gland nut is a different size than the stock one. Stock is 36mm and i think cb is 37-38...
No big deal. But.
My torque master tool tool I bought to tighten down the gland nut is also 36mm. Haha.
Not sure what I am asking here but I guess I’ll just buy another stock gland nut or use the cb and have to find another socket and find a way of torquing down the gland nut without the torque tool I bought. Wasted money I guess.
I guess I’ll just get a new gland nut instead. |
Manufactured from chromoly steel to provide the strongest gland nut available. The extra large thrust surface helps hold the flywheel firmly against the crankshaft to prevent loose dowel pins and oil loss. The increased diameter has better holding power than stock gland nuts. Complete with inner needle bearing and special grease seal. You can use Racing Gland Nuts with stock or lightweight flywheels with 4 or 8 hole pattern. Each Racing Gland Nut is sold with a hardened steel thrust washer for added strength and holding power. For use on all 40hp, 1300, 1500 and 1600cc based engines.
Requires 1 1/2" socket. |
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W1K1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| My torque master tool tool I bought to tighten down the gland nut is also 36mm. Haha. |
simple fix. I have 3 different gland nut "tools" for the torquemeister. I never seem to buy the same size gland nut.
buy a cheap socket for the size you need, weld an axle nut on the top, trim the length so it fits in the torquemeister when mounted on the engine case.
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67 Sunroof
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| It’s the little things that always bite you in the ass...not exactly hit me but slowed my progress. I appreciate your suggestions. The torque meister is awesome!!! |
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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Back In the old days we used these, but they are limited by size as the socket is welded on. Unbreakable tool steel not cast will last forever.. left side is 41mm and right side 36mm.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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Yup....
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Mikedrevguy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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Weld a axel nut to the 1 1/2” socket, and use the torquemeister as usual.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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i used to weld sockets to stuff, but these days I mostly don't anymore.
A socket is most useful as a socket.
But....I will weld a tube to an extension, this makes a great low cost breaker bar, that has proven SUPER handy. Two can be connected to form a tee handle.
Connect a torque wrench to make a tee handle that gives 2x torque setting for large lug nuts.
Weld another extension at the end of the handle, also makes 2x torque wrench multiplier. (Must be same effective length as torque wrench in both cases)
Depends WHERE you are in the game.
Still tooling up, or, tooling down (re-tired) |
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vwracerdave
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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I only buy the Gene Berg gland nut and I only have one tool.
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Glenn
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67 Sunroof
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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Think I’m gonna go with the Berg. It the right size so I can use both my 36mm socket, torque wrench, and my torque meister thingy.
I “can” weld but not too confident in my ability. If that bitc! breaks it would suck!! |
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Dan Ruddock
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| 67 Sunroof wrote: |
Think I’m gonna go with the Berg. It the right size so I can use both my 36mm socket, torque wrench, and my torque meister thingy.
I “can” weld but not too confident in my ability. If that bitc! breaks it would suck!! |
Yep the Berg is a quality piece. All I will use.
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Paul Jr
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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67 Sunroof
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| That’s awesome. How would torque specs apply in that case? How would you torque it down? |
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BFB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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i read a book and cant remember which one now, couldve been the " how to keep your vw alive" as it has some really cool simple ideas. anyhow it was talking about torquing the gland nut and an easy way to figure your foot lbs. if you have a 200lb man supporting all his weight on a 1 ft bar thats equal to 200 ft lbs , make it a 2 ft bar and thats 400 ft lbs, etc etc...
i tried this on the last engine i built ( im about 220 ) with a 2ft breaker bar. so if this is correct that wouldve been 440 ft lbs. after that i hit the gland nut with my 1/2" impact rated at 400 lbs on 600lbs off and it wouldnt tighten the gland nut anymore than what it was. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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| richardcraineum wrote: |
i read a book and cant remember which one now, couldve been the " how to keep your vw alive" as it has some really cool simple ideas. anyhow it was talking about torquing the gland nut and an easy way to figure your foot lbs. if you have a 200lb man supporting all his weight on a 1 ft bar thats equal to 200 ft lbs , make it a 2 ft bar and thats 400 ft lbs, etc etc...
i tried this on the last engine i built ( im about 220 ) with a 2ft breaker bar. so if this is correct that wouldve been 440 ft lbs. after that i hit the gland nut with my 1/2" impact rated at 400 lbs on 600lbs off and it wouldnt tighten the gland nut anymore than what it was. |
Impact ratings are usually BS. Your body weight at a given length works fine.
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67 Sunroof
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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i read a book and cant remember which one now, couldve been the " how to keep your vw alive" as it has some really cool simple ideas. anyhow it was talking about torquing the gland nut and an easy way to figure your foot lbs. if you have a 200lb man supporting all his weight on a 1 ft bar thats equal to 200 ft lbs , make it a 2 ft bar and thats 400 ft lbs, etc etc...
i tried this on the last engine i built ( im about 220 ) with a 2ft breaker bar. so if this is correct that wouldve been 440 ft lbs. after that i hit the gland nut with my 1/2" impact rated at 400 lbs on 600lbs off and it wouldnt tighten the gland nut anymore than what it was. |
Yep that’s where it was from.
Muir had a backyard bare bones approach that just worked.
He also had a hilarious way to explain it. His book was entertaining as well as educating. |
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TomSimon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:04 am Post subject: Re: CB “racing gland nut” |
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simple fix. I have 3 different gland nut "tools" for the torquemeister. I never seem to buy the same size gland nut.
buy a cheap socket for the size you need, weld an axle nut on the top of that cheap socket, trim the length so it fits in the torquemeister when mounted on the engine case. |
Yes! ^^^^^^^^ This!
works fantastic
I just flip the torquemeister's pinion gear around tot he brake drum removal side, which accommodates my socket/axle nut weldment
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