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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

so PO put a glove box door on my 73. The dash light now just lays in the glove box. The problem is the "slider" keeps moving unbeknownst to me and it kills the battery. Any ideas what to do with it?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

A: mount it
B: remove it
C: check it regularly
problem solved Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

At one time, I moved the maplight to the bottom of the right hand dash panel. Worked out pretty good.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

Semper_Dad wrote:
At one time, I moved the maplight to the bottom of the right hand dash panel. Worked out pretty good.


This sounds like the way to go! TY
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

Do any of us actually use that light? There is a relocation bracket available...TTS maybe? It might actually be more functional under the dash...when was the last time time you actually used a map? I say put it in a box and save it for a purist.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

My glove box light, radio, and garage door opener are all powered by a relay that is triggered by the SU contact on the ignition switch.

Normally, the SU contact is used to power a door buzzer on '70's VW's when the key is in the ignition switch. This feature is not applicable to Things, but it is very useful when re-purposed this way. On Things, terminal SU provides +12V when the key is in the ignition. It is a simple matter to install a .110 disconnect terminal (with locking tab) into the vacant SU cavity of the ignition switch plug.

Passengers would bump the glove box light, switching it on, and in bright daylight, it would go un-noticed. Additionally, I can listen to the radio, or open my garage door with the key in the ignition, but the ignition switched off. Here's a sketch:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

Thanks for this. I don't have a radio but thats ok. This may be the way to go
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

mondshine wrote:
My glove box light, radio, and garage door opener are all powered by a relay that is triggered by the SU contact on the ignition switch.

Normally, the SU contact is used to power a door buzzer on '70's VW's when the key is in the ignition switch. This feature is not applicable to Things, but it is very useful when re-purposed this way. On Things, terminal SU provides +12V when the key is in the ignition. It is a simple matter to install a .110 disconnect terminal (with locking tab) into the vacant SU cavity of the ignition switch plug.

Passengers would bump the glove box light, switching it on, and in bright daylight, it would go un-noticed. Additionally, I can listen to the radio, or open my garage door with the key in the ignition, but the ignition switched off. Here's a sketch:

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I thought about doing that when I installed my new ignition switch a couple months ago, and wish I had gone ahead and done it!

I suppose it probably isn't all that hard to pop the wiring harness of the bottom of the switch without completely undoing everything.

I also should try to fix up that light. It is currently a rusted mess.

Nice diagram, btw.

How did you set up your garage door opener? I like that idea; I keep an opener in one of my Buses, and never remember to lock it, so really things aren't all that secure should someone decide to look inside the Bus and see the opener...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

westyman-
My garage door transmitter used a small (weird) 12V battery, so it was easy to just bypass the switch with a momentary pushbutton (mounted in a discreet location).
Many garage door transmitters require ~3 volts, but a simple $2 DC step down buck would reduce the car's 12V to whatever is required by your transmitter (just check the battery in the transmitter).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

mondshine wrote:
westyman-
My garage door transmitter used a small (weird) 12V battery, so it was easy to just bypass the switch with a momentary pushbutton (mounted in a discreet location).
Many garage door transmitters require ~3 volts, but a simple $2 DC step down buck would reduce the car's 12V to whatever is required by your transmitter (just check the battery in the transmitter).


So did you just take the remote and stash it somewhere in the Thing out of the way, and basically wire your own button in the circuit, replacing the garage door opener button? Genius!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Glove box light placement Reply with quote

westyman-
I took the transmitter apart.
Mine contained a simple circuit board about 1" x 2".
Once wires were soldered to the battery contacts and across the switch (so that the switch is always "on"), I use a momentary pushbutton switch to power the transmitter. The whole thing fits inside a 3" length of 1" heat shrink tube with two wires sticking out of one end. One wire goes to ground, and the other wire goes to the switch.
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