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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

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You guys are nuts! Carbs had their day and you are nuts to think throwing a turbo with carbs will make it run better. Smile

The only time CIS or EFI has let me down was because of a worn out fuel pump or an occasional fuel pump relay.


Where did you get the idea we're talking about carbs and turbos? I think you missed a few posts, we already discussed carbs being ill-suited for turbos. The OP has a carb system now, so that's the quickest, cheapest way to get him back on the road with a replacement setup.

But with tens, if not hundreds of millions of miles driven on carbs, kinda silly to pretend they can't work well. No, you can't play around with long duration cams, or high overlap cams and expect enough idle suction to idle worth a damn, but if the carb is sized properly to the engine and jetted to the altitude, they can and do run well. FI is better for driveability yeah, and emissions, and likely fuel economy.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

I was eager to know what really happened with this engine since the last time it ran in the middle of summer.


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As you already know it has taken forever to put new engine since it starting to smell like barbecue and the exhaust was like a smoker Shocked (Are we having steak? Very Happy )

When I put the new engine I wouldn't want to have any problems with it that's why I checked it, just wanted to be really sure.

It turned out it had a bad distributor, I was able to find the problem testing the solenoid with the multimeter and then I confirmed it when placed my finger in the solenoid when touching the ground so you can imagine how that feels Laughing

I found that when touching the ignition module (where the rotor is seated inside the distributor) it had a clicking noise in the solenoid when the key was on, so that's how I got to know what happened (maybe, and I say maybe because in the electronics world it could be anything)

I already had that problem years ago with the ignition module so it's time for a new distributor.

I'm thinking of summit racing (does obd1 and obd2 has to be taken in to consideration?). What do you guys think? Throw some heavy lip on me!

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Can some one please send me a grass weed eater? Very Happy




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Fun day before Christmas Eve!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Guys good afternoon! And happy new year!

Do you have a clue of what could cause this residue in the valves and spark plugs in the head of my tin top?

It's a 1985 jetta 1.8 head in a 2.0 block the van had possibly bad rings because it was a smoker Laughing so the cylinder had just charcoal residue but when I saw this on the head I was like 😒 wtf what is that?

Is any one have a clue of past experience?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Well I'm back at it again, after selling the Beetle and receiving some funds for the tools that I needed the engine is out

Today we had heavy rain so everything is wet outside so have to the weather to get sunny so that I can concentrate on the engine. Today I did a little bit of more work on the harness and made my first mistake Very Happy cut the wrong wire good thing I noticed it because I had a second-hand look at the photo to learn who he is (is the reason for my constant struggle and work in life)


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

We are back from a 3-week vacation to Lago Chapala México specifically Ajijic wonderful place to live it's full of Americans and Canadians.

Started to put the engine in the stand and sprayed some degreaser hope to move slowly because more funding is coming our way after may.

Very inspired in uberaudis build on a lot of confusions I had to solve clearance issues. Also with exhaust resolutions.

Thanks to Vanagonut for his "manual", specially Dkoesyncro for sending me that mk3 jetta book. Thanks man I owe you one. And thanks to everyone else that has placed an answer on my thread. I appreciate it. heres some picks of the donor engine. ready to be degreased!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

no offense to the OP
but you have enough trouble getting 'normal' engine operations to run properly for you
I would not suggest a hybrid/DIY turbo till your mechanic gets more skilled


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

danfromsyr wrote:
no offense to the OP
but you have enough trouble getting 'normal' engine operations to run properly for you
I would not suggest a hybrid/DIY turbo till your mechanic gets more skilled


KISS

Keep
It
Simple
Silly Wink


When you say no offense to the OP we all know what does that mean. Fortunately, I do not depend on what people think, its the other way around, I put more attention on what I think about people and I do whatever is in front of me to be done. I grab the positive side of people ONLY!

In my vocabulary the Term

KISS

Means:

Keep
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Simple
Stupid!

So now you know what to think about keeping things simple in your yard and not in mine.

By the way no offense to Dan. As I imagine that he is a gentleman and non-offense will be taken.

If you have something to add to my build youre welcome to come back and leave a positive comment

Like something about turbos lol!

Or normal operation on a 2.0 ABA

Back to the thread I'm about to measure cylinder dimension and bearing wear wish me luck because I saw some crusty oil debris inside of the head and engine oil but it was a junkyard engine placed in the donor car with 100k miles (battery did connect to dash) so hoping for the best, if not I have plenty of time to invest in this engine but the sooner the better =)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Hey folks after a quick nap I measured the ID of cylinders and to to my surprise they are beefy

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Tomorrow I'll measure the main bearings and the rods bearings just to be really sure that we have solid internals
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

That's really not the right tool to measure a bore. It's ok to give you a ball park guess, but not that accurate. That applies to the engine bearings and journals too.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

ups my bad, forgot to throw some samba forum porn !

I used this satellite measuring tools


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Ill use some Sealed Power Plastigage made in the USA for the bearings and then clean it very well
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Made some progress today after having a ball park at the cylinders, making sure that everything is thighteng in the internals, I painted a part of the engine and placed the diesel oil pan just to motivate my self

Looking good! (I think I overkilled the silicone on the front crankshaft seal I would appreciate comments here my friends)


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Progress! Not perfection


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As for my boy... He is having a nap to much thinking with the harness lol!
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Head is here! Things are getting interesting!


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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Hey Roger.

Is that a new head?

Nice to see the progress.

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Vanagon Nut wrote:
Hey Roger.

Is that a new head?

Nice to see the progress.

Neil.


Doesn't it look new? Haha it was the donor cars head it was a good job by the machine shop the last job they did in mine lasted 8 years in my engine full reboard (is that the word)

Thanks for your visit come by more often Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Good to see you're making progress, keep that ball rolling!
Are you using obd1 wiring harness? If so, A2resource has an excellent color copy schematic...super simple to follow, clear down to wiring up the relays.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

dkoesyncro wrote:
Good to see you're making progress, keep that ball rolling!
Are you using obd1 wiring harness? If so, A2resource has an excellent color copy schematic...super simple to follow, clear down to wiring up the relays.


Yes OBD1, Thanks Dillon yeah that schematic is great I have it on 11.5 x 16 lol!!! and with plastic!

I'm getting there on the relay connections I'm right now as we speak soldering all wires because the harness was excessive too long I cut it down to 55" +/- but I left all connectors long and also relays very long I'm deciding were should I put the relays, I'm more towards the bench seat as they will remain without humidity
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

Are you fabricating a custom intake? Still planning to turbo charge?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: 2.0 ABA Block rebuild thread thinking in turbo=) Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
Are you fabricating a custom intake? Still planning to turbo charge?


The Peny has forced me to first go Stock EFI and about the Intake I was thinking on Europen intake from an Audi A4 (B5) 1.6

Part 050133223D

Engine capacity
1,595 cc
Engine code
AHL
Saloon, 4-dr, Petrol, 1.595cc, 74kW (101pk), FWD, ADP; AHL; ANA; ARM, 1994-11 / 2000-10, 8D2

The one that Dkoesyncro (Dillon) used but still dont know if I will have to adapt new fuel injectors (stock) and fuel rail or if the EDIT: Throtle body - will fit I think it does... I guess this is a question for Dkoesyncro Very Happy Shocked Laughing
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