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Mfarleyesq
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Location: Newport, RI
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 Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:29 pm Post subject: Wheel Rim Paint |
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| I have a Red 1971 411 wagon and the wheels are in tough shape. What color were the rims originally? My dad painted these silver in 78, but I seem to recall that the original color was white or cream. I just bought new rubber and wanted to clean the rims up before I mount the tires. |
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titan3c
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Location: Coweta, Oklahoma
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Wheel Rim Paint |
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| I bought my car new in 71, and the wheels were the standard vw gray as seen on I think all their cars back then. Ray can probably be more specific about the color spec. Bob |
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raygreenwood
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Location: Oklahoma City
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Wheel Rim Paint |
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| Mfarleyesq wrote: |
| I have a Red 1971 411 wagon and the wheels are in tough shape. What color were the rims originally? My dad painted these silver in 78, but I seem to recall that the original color was white or cream. I just bought new rubber and wanted to clean the rims up before I mount the tires. |
So there were really only possibly two colors...and really only one because I think its just an oddity of how they listed the rim colors in the parts book.
So your car is a 411 wagon. I think that makes it a 461 model. As a 1971 model your cars paint might have been L-31 F (Iberian red). I cannot find any colors listed for "wheel disc" other than L-91 "chrome colored" (meaning silver). I have also never seen any stock rims other than silver.
But....The way they list appears that some may have been black....the same color as used in the interior hard parts...but I think its just a notation issue....there were many in the parts book. Like this:
Note the very bottom line.
And the next page showing L-91.
Here is some more info with a couple of resources that kind of backs up L-91 as a very common rim color...in this rather "bitchy" thread.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=686115.
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KTPhil 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Wheel Rim Paint |
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I think it was the grayish silver used on the other Types' wheels, at least the late 4-lugs. It is not the bright silver that most rattle cans produce.
Probably the backsides were black. And at least on the Types 1&3, if you ordered the trim rings the front sides were black as well.
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Wheel Rim Paint |
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| KTPhil wrote: |
I think it was the grayish silver used on the other Types' wheels, at least the late 4-lugs. It is not the bright silver that most rattler cans produce.
Probably the backsides were black. And at least on the Types 1&3, if you ordered the trim rings the front sides were black as well. |
Yes...I think the type 4's are identical to the type 3.
In the book they list the wheel Part # 311601 025C .....and the "Rim Embellisher-road wheel" (trim ring)...part #311 601 155
From the 411/412 parts book:
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Mfarleyesq
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Location: Newport, RI
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Wheel Rim Paint |
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| Thanks gents. Had a crew of HS kids over today who (with my son) changed plugs, drained the varnish from the fuel tank, replaced some fuel lines, cleaned the fuel sending unit, repaired a broken (chewed?) FI wire and checked/changed some fuses. Between your help and theirs, we might get this rig rolling! |
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