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bigdog1962 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:48 pm Post subject: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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I inherited this charger and I imagine that I imagine was made in the 70's. It's been sitting on the shelf since I got it as I have another much newer one.
My question is - would you still trust it to use it?
I didn't want to use it/give it away/sell it if it's outdated and shouldn't be used.
It's in good shape - no frayed wires, etc.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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A batter charger is not the same as a batter tender. One is designed to charge a battery that is dead while the other is used to maintain a battery that is not being used.
It's probably OK to use for it's intended purpose. _________________ Glenn
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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I’ve had one like that for over 25 years. |
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AutoMechanic Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2019 Posts: 483 Location: Roanoke Virginia
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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Yes I sure would. We have an old Diehard at home from Sears it seldom gets used my dad bought it new in 1983 works like a charm and it lived most of its life outside because we don’t have a garage. But I always bring it in for the winter. |
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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This charger was made by either Schauer or Woodward-Schumacher for Sears. It has the Sears logo that was used starting in 1984, so it's no older than that.
These work great if your battery has gone dead from sitting for too long and you want to give it an overnight charge in the garage.
Too bad it doesn't have a switch for 6-volt charging. _________________ Thanks,
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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halfassleatherworks Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2018 Posts: 641 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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why do you think it will not work?
just because it is old
does not make any difference if that was the case then through you old VW away _________________ Halfass Leatherworks*****GOT LEATHER Made to order Leather crafts, you can find us on that face book thing
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bigdog1962 Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2010 Posts: 1586 Location: Augusta, Georgia
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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halfassleatherworks wrote: |
why do you think it will not work?
just because it is old
does not make any difference if that was the case then through you old VW away |
Because technology changes, I'm not mechanically knowledgeable about these things and I know that there are folks on here that are.
Thanks for everyone's input. It's a keeper. _________________ Oprn wrote: I'm getting to the age that any self propelled woman (no wheel chair or walker) looks HOT!! Oooo! look at that Babe! She made it from the dining room all the way to the TV room without help!! Hubba, hubba!! |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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No joke i have the same exact one if not nearly identical. works great. It was stored in a barn until i inherited it. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
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cbeck Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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Lead acid batteries, none of the new fangled stuff, different internal resistance. _________________ My cut in half and rebuild thread
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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I assume by "newfangled" batteries, you people mean stuff like Optima.
For my batteries, I've used my 1970s era Schauer charger for decades, typical Interstate, Autozone, O'Reilly batteries. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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its better thaqn the modern chargers that wil not charge a dead battery....for some reason...I use battery chargers to charge dead batterys, the batterys that arent dead dont need charging...go figure. |
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ccpalmer Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2006 Posts: 3850 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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Mine looks about as old as that one! _________________ '71 Westy |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12740 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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Yes! Use it, it's a keeper for sure! I scour garage sales for those old chargers for the reason stated below.
mark tucker wrote: |
its better thaqn the modern chargers that wil not charge a dead battery....for some reason...I use battery chargers to charge dead batterys, the batterys that arent dead dont need charging...go figure. |
Modern chargers Mark are designed to be idiot proof. That means they are polarity protected so that the average idiot cannot reverse the polarity and plug it in causing damage to the charger, battery and possibly the idiot. So they need to sense polarity before they will give an output. If the battery is dead or very close to it there will not be a strong enough polarity feed back to trigger the sensing circuitry and allow the charger to output a charge.
Yes hook a stone dead battery in parallel with one that has some charge with the charger on both for a while and the dead one will come up enough for the modern charger to recognize it as a legit polarity and charge it on it's own. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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oprn wrote: |
Yes! Use it, it's a keeper for sure! I scour garage sales for those old chargers for the reason stated below.
mark tucker wrote: |
its better thaqn the modern chargers that wil not charge a dead battery....for some reason...I use battery chargers to charge dead batterys, the batterys that arent dead dont need charging...go figure. |
Modern chargers Mark are designed to be idiot proof. That means they are polarity protected so that the average idiot cannot reverse the polarity and plug it in causing damage to the charger, battery and possibly the idiot. So they need to sense polarity before they will give an output. If the battery is dead or very close to it there will not be a strong enough polarity feed back to trigger the sensing circuitry and allow the charger to output a charge.
Yes hook a stone dead battery in parallel with one that has some charge with the charger on both for a while and the dead one will come up enough for the modern charger to recognize it as a legit polarity and charge it on it's own. |
This type of design and related government agencies that protect "stupid" I see as one of the main reasons we are inundated with "stupid" today.
Agencies such as OSHA have protected people who are too dumb to stay alive without help. These folk were able to now live long enough so they were able to reproduce ....... creating yet more and more stupid. .......
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12740 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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Harsh Dave, harsh!
Not saying you are wrong....
State sponsored attempt to reverse Darwen's theory of evolution I say. Started with automatic transmissions... progressed to antilock brakes, traction control, light sensing headlight switches, climate control, proximity sensors in the bumpers... The self driving car is the pinnacle of that effort.
Behold the semi comatose modern driver!
On to that dream of... flying cars?
Ha!
The most recent batch of drivers would be completely flummoxed in an old VW with a stick and manual steering on a one dimensional road, add three dimensions? Good Lord save us!!!!
Don't mind me, just an old Coot with some runaway early morning thoughts - needing a cup of coffee...
Where is it... oop! Found the tea... all good now! |
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EasternNotch Samba Member
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halfassleatherworks Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2018 Posts: 641 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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oprn wrote: |
Harsh Dave, harsh!
Not saying you are wrong....
State sponsored attempt to reverse Darwen's theory of evolution I say. Started with automatic transmissions... progressed to antilock brakes, traction control, light sensing headlight switches, climate control, proximity sensors in the bumpers... The self driving car is the pinnacle of that effort.
Behold the semi comatose modern driver!
On to that dream of... flying cars?
Ha!
The most recent batch of drivers would be completely flummoxed in an old VW with a stick and manual steering on a one dimensional road, add three dimensions? Good Lord save us!!!!
Don't mind me, just an old Coot with some runaway early morning thoughts - needing a cup of coffee...
Where is it... oop! Found the tea... all good now! |
With the exception of the anti lock brakes I agree.
with anti lock brakes I can autocross without flatspoting my tires to bad on my old 88 Corvette.
oops Can't say that on here it doesn't have a water cooled flat 4 in it, I mean a air cooled motor.
Time to go back to bed _________________ Halfass Leatherworks*****GOT LEATHER Made to order Leather crafts, you can find us on that face book thing
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Would you trust this battery charger? |
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I like Coots served hot, with a piping plover starter _________________ .ssS! |
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