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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

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Looks like PayPal has to report any sales over $600 to the IRS. Wonder how this will effect sellers here on the Samba?

That would be $600 for all sales over the year. Not just a single sale of $600.

The IRS rule used to be $20,000 cumulative sales over the year.

The new rules are gonna change the game for third party money transfers.

Of course, the "Friends" sales don't get reported. If I'm understanding the new IRS rules.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

I don't use Paypal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

Same goes for Venmo, Cashapp, Zelle or any other third party payers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/taxes/fact-o...o-in-2022/

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If you own your own business or have a side hustle and get paid through digital apps like PayPal, Zelle, Cash App or Venmo, earnings over $600 will now be reported to the IRS. A provision from the 2021 American Rescue Plan, which went into effect on Jan. 1, directs third-party payment processors to report transactions received for goods or services totaling over $600 per year to the IRS.

Prior to this legislation, a third-party payment platform would only report to the tax agency if a user had more than 200 commercial transactions and made more than $20,000 in payments over the course of a year.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

pay your taxes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

^^^^Not wanting 1099K's to complicate ones tax profile does not make them a tax cheat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

I use Pay Pal and take payments without any fees as designed. When people ask for fees to be paid I move on. Since I suck up the fees I feel as though I woulkd be paying on both sides of a transaction.

I sold a car for a customer years ago on Ebay and paid Pay Pal buyer was a jerk. Car was described honestly. buyer decided to ask for a refund. Since I kept no money in my account they snuck their way into my checking account and forced a sizeable overdraft to settle the chargeback.

During this time the car was in New Jersey, I'm in CA and the owner in Florida. The owner refunded my loss and had the car shipped to him in Florida. All the while I would was dealing with P.P., I sent them Ads and pictures of the car as well as personal Nasty E mails from the buyer. They never really said much about it. One day I get a notice of a full refund from Pay Pal, E bay sided with me and gave me 100% of my chargeback. At this point I had an inside phone number to Pay Pal to a Rep I had been dealing with. I called her up and told her that we had picked the car up a month earlier as we thought it was over. I have to say she was quite surprised. I expected them to ask for a refund or just take the funds. Nothing ever happened. I sent the funds to the owner In Florida and he ended up getting paid and keeping the money.

So that has taught me to never leave a door open for them, but in the end they did the right thing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

If a 1099 is too complicated for you once a yearl, don’t drive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

Remember before PayPal ?
Money Orders and Wire Transfers ( for large sales amounts).
Do you think it will go back to that, to avoid Uncle Sam from having his hands in everyone's pockets?
PayPal programed everyone into using their service, their so called safe haven, Distrust between Seller and Buyer is what PayPal founded their business on, they've made a fortune.
Uncle Sam see's this fortune and wants his due.
I work and pay tax, I save and pay tax, I buy and pay tax, I sell and pay tax. Their hands are out but what are they doing for you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

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Remember before PayPal ?
Money Orders and Wire Transfers ( for large sales amounts).

Once got a bad Western Union. I called them and they said "Yes it's counterfeit" and that was it. They didn't care and I was out the money. I then had to pay a fee to my bank for a bad deposit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

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Remember before PayPal ?
Money Orders and Wire Transfers ( for large sales amounts).
Do you think it will go back to that, to avoid Uncle Sam from having his hands in everyone's pockets?
PayPal programed everyone into using their service, their so called safe haven, Distrust between Seller and Buyer is what PayPal founded their business on, they've made a fortune.
Uncle Sam see's this fortune and wants his due.
I work and pay tax, I save and pay tax, I buy and pay tax, I sell and pay tax. Their hands are out but what are they doing for you.
Gimme, Gimme, Gimme !


dunno what the answer is other than cash in person. again, these policies shoved up our collective asses by the party in charge only go to hurt the poor and lower middle class.

i have a huge problem being triple taxed on the same dollar earned. i don't sell a whole lot and that is because of a time thing, but now having to run that aspect of my life as yet another business makes me wonder if it's worth it.

bottom line is for casual sellers it may very well either end selling online for them all together but know this, there will be a price increase for those that continue to sell
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

Adam Smith, In “ wealth of nations” calls making money without adding value “ rent seeking” and warns why it’s bad for capitalism.

That’s buying crap low and selling it high, aka flipping.

If cons actually read their economic Bible, the world might be a better place.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

usps postal money orders will answer the call ( amazing history on those BTW ), personal checks for small amounts also OK. Crypto also may offer a solution. Now if the banks have to report on transactions over $600 ( part of this next BBB plan ), there will be a run on the banks and safety deposit boxes. Mark my word.

Adam Smith is deader than dead in the modern economy, its like watching a horse drawn cart to understand cars.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

It will be a big adjustment for everyone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

this isn't the first ad i've seen here and probably won't be the last:

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for many selling stuff is a hobby. this doesn't have any effect of a full blown business.

this is going to make a lot of folks think twice about listing stuff, especially 'casual' sellers.

i don't sell a whole lot here but from time to time i will list some stuff. i have to sit down with my accountant and see if the juice is worth the squeeze
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

The above ad text was remove for violating the politics rule of the site.

Thanks to the people who reported it as well as some recent reports about people using the "letsgo" BS on the site.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

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The above ad text was remove for violating the politics rule of the site.


so does that go for members who change their sig lines every few days? i have seen many that have been doing that.

i know...it's your house...your rules. got to admit no matter what "side" you're on this is having a negative impact on ALL of us.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
EverettB wrote:
The above ad text was remove for violating the politics rule of the site.


so does that go for members who change their sig lines every few days? i have seen many that have been doing that.

i know...it's your house...your rules. got to admit no matter what "side" you're on this is having a negative impact on ALL of us.


If it's political then Yes.

Otherwise it's ok to change your signature whenever you want.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

New policy changes at PPal, Zelle, & others are now adding charges to transactions & reporting to IRS.




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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal Reply with quote

If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.

Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either
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