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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Abscate wrote: |
If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.
Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either |
Hmm, so I guess that you have declared every dollar received from every new or used VW part that you have ever sold. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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the next push is going to be for a cashless society. mark my words. it will come under the guise as "stopping drug trafficking" or some other feel good bullshit
look what they did and are doing to truckers in Canada. this is scary shit folks and no matter what side you're on it should alarm the fuck out of you.
we have a kid that does odd jobs around here from time to time. about 13 or 14, hard working kid. loved getting paid electronically but has now stopped it because as a minor his parents had to have the account in their name.
his parents are super nice and like many are just getting by. they don't want to have their names attached to this for obvious reasons. poor kid is trying to save for his first car.
anyone on this site who thinks this is ok needs to look in the mirror and admit as a kid you too had some sort of side hustle to get you going and you did it 'tax free' and if you think any of this is a good idea you're part of the problem.
these polices are just keeping the poor poor, those on fixed incomes fucked and killing the middle class. _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:10 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.
Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either |
Hmm, so I guess that you have declared every dollar received from every new or used VW part that you have ever sold. |
In my younger days of course not. I was young and brash and stupid.
Now I’m just stupid. With nexus in all 53 states I have to keep everything clean subject to any applicable deminimius limits.
If you make a living selling and buying stuff , you have to charge and pay taxes. If that’s too difficult , let others do it. _________________ .ssS! |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Abscate wrote: |
TDCTDI wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.
Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either |
Hmm, so I guess that you have declared every dollar received from every new or used VW part that you have ever sold. |
In my younger days of course not. I was young and brash and stupid.
Now I’m just stupid. With nexus in all 53 states I have to keep everything clean subject to any applicable deminimius limits.
If you make a living selling and buying stuff , you have to charge and pay taxes. If that’s too difficult , let others do it. |
See, I knew you were a hypocrite. It doesn’t matter when, or how little you did it, you still did & probably will continue to “cheat the system” while trying to rail on me for simply posting a link to enlighten others.
This is not about “making a living selling & buying stuff”, this is about payment systems instituting policies to arbitrarily collect taxes, redistribute taxes, & report transactions, that aren’t necessarily business transactions, to the government. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8687 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
The above ad text was remove for violating the politics rule of the site.
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so does that go for members who change their sig lines every few days? i have seen many that have been doing that.
i know...it's your house...your rules. got to admit no matter what "side" you're on this is having a negative impact on ALL of us. |
Speak for yourself. I'm not on any "side" and this does not affect me at all. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4925 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Abscate wrote: |
If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.
Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either |
... which IRS form do you use when you sell a used car to your neighbor?
- you ARE reporting these transactions, right?
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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didget69 wrote: |
... which IRS form do you use when you sell a used car to your neighbor?
- you ARE reporting these transactions, right?
bnc |
naa, it's cool. he's 100% in the 'rules for thee, not for me' camp:
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I’ll probably hvac in retirement. One summer a few years back I did a bunch of E83 evapsat 3k a pop. I had it down to 4 hours at end. Local BWankerW wanted6k and 5 weeks.
The dash work was pure joy, nice quality fittings and fitment , too. |
I can list 100's of his comments about charging people for work and shitting on legit shops with legit overhead, employees etc.
just so tired of people pulling the moral superiority card when it comes to this stuff.
this whole deal is just a money grab, period. to jump thru the hoops as a casual seller is insane. our accountant is still trying to figure out all of this crap.
stuff that has been owned for years, bought at swap meets etc is now subject to being taxed? it's a quagmire of b/s for folks that aren't a business and just a casual hobbyist. _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Manfred58sc Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2009 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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What a consenting adult does with a consenting elephant is no one business but their own. Finances, like religion, politics, and love are personal matters each of us has to sort out for ourselves .
Good friend of mine just had paypal hacked from an app on his phone. Bank and PP were very helpful to resolve the issues and he was made whole in less than a week. PP described the attack as very sophisticated.
My lady had a recent experience at a hotel in Frankfurt Germany where paying cash was not an option, period.
Death of cash..its coming _________________ Fat chick owner/operator |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Manfred58sc wrote: |
My lady had a recent experience at a hotel in Frankfurt Germany where paying cash was not an option, period.
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honestly, I can see that. same with rental cars etc. it's not like they run the minute you check out to look at the room/rental car etc. for damages.
so yes, I can see where CC's have a place. but i know some motels that take cash
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Death of cash..its coming |
only if we let it happen. the Canadian trucker deal should be enough to nip that b/s in the bud, but i'll never say never. Once they take cash away, we the people are really powerless _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Abscate wrote: |
I’ll probably hvac in retirement. One summer a few years back I did a bunch of E83 evapsat 3k a pop. I had it down to 4 hours at end. Local BWankerW wanted6k and 5 weeks.
The dash work was pure joy, nice quality fittings and fitment , too. |
Speaking of hypocrisy, I’ll assume that Abscate pulled the proper permits, paid the city, county, state, & federal taxes on all that work, but, being that he’s staunch supporter of unions, I can think of at least two unions that didn’t get supported in each of those HVAC jobs. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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wheel607 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 1845
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
I’ll probably hvac in retirement. One summer a few years back I did a bunch of E83 evapsat 3k a pop. I had it down to 4 hours at end. Local BWankerW wanted6k and 5 weeks.
The dash work was pure joy, nice quality fittings and fitment , too. |
Speaking of hypocrisy, I’ll assume that Abscate pulled the proper permits, paid the city, county, state, & federal taxes on all that work, but, being that he’s staunch supporter of unions, I can think of at least two unions that didn’t get supported in each of those HVAC jobs. |
The difference between how things are done in NYC and North Carolina. I am in Virginia and the people I would be working for want LOWER prices......not higher as all these proper permits would require. Ill take North Carolina or Virginia ANYDAY. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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we'd all like lower prices
but do you know what a proper a/c recovery machine costs? a lot
yea, bubba with a screwdriver on the Schraeder valve will always be cheaper, until he isn't.
there will always be a black market when prices get too high but the reality is can you afford professional repairs after bubba "saved" you 250 bux and caused more harm than good?
double edged sword
pay bubba and pray it comes out ok, knowing that if he screws you, you have no legal leg to stand on or pay for a licensed and insured biz registered with the state and have consumer protection on your side.
guess it depends if you like to gamble or not
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Speak for yourself. I'm not on any "side" and this does not affect me at all. |
so what you're saying is you never buy from ebay, the samba etc? cuz if you do prices of your items will go up to cover the taxes the seller is required to pay.
don't think for a minute someone is going to absorb the costs. it gets passed on to the end user _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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wheel607 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 1845
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
we'd all like lower prices
but do you know what a proper a/c recovery machine costs? a lot
yea, bubba with a screwdriver on the Schraeder valve will always be cheaper, until he isn't.
there will always be a black market when prices get too high but the reality is can you afford professional repairs after bubba "saved" you 250 bux and caused more harm than good?
double edged sword
pay bubba and pray it comes out ok, knowing that if he screws you, you have no legal leg to stand on or pay for a licensed and insured biz registered with the state and have consumer protection on your side.
guess it depends if you like to gamble or not
anyway, back to paypal:
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Speak for yourself. I'm not on any "side" and this does not affect me at all. |
so what you're saying is you never buy from ebay, the samba etc? cuz if you do prices of your items will go up to cover the taxes the seller is required to pay.
don't think for a minute someone is going to absorb the costs. it gets passed on to the end user |
Skills........Bubba is a myth......We talk differently, but we have tech schools, just like you do in the north. We are in a RIGHT TO WORK State and I have never experienced what you have defined. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12815 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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wheel607 wrote: |
Skills........Bubba is a myth......We talk differently, but we have tech schools, just like you do in the north. We are in a RIGHT TO WORK State and I have never experienced what you have defined. |
Dude, you’re trying to hard to be offended, Skillz wasn’t trying to make a slight about suthnahs. Just like the South has VoTech too, the North has its share of Bubbas, Billy Bobs, & rednecks. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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I like many others have used PP from the beginning. I find their service convenient and feel that I get more sales as people like easy.
I am opposed to FF for sales to people I don't know either buying or selling. As a buyer I am offered no protection from a fraudulent transaction. I also will not pay the ?% to cover their costs, work it into your price and if they pay some other way it's a win.
When selling I insist on being paid Goods and Services, it offers my customer protection and gives me the ability to create a discounted shipping label from Pay Pal that easily tracked.
Years ago I sold a car for a client and it backfired and got really ugly as they took funds I didn't have from my joint account (not good or cool). They found an open access through E bay which is now closed. I have no financial links to Pay Pal and can only spend what I have in my account.
As a company they are hard to get in touch with and five you no info along the way until you get a note that it has been resolved.
Use them cautiously
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
Samba member # 14980
Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
Don't let your van end up in an "abortions" thread. |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7596
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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I can currently see PayPal Park while reading about PayPal on The Samba. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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16CVs wrote: |
I am opposed to FF for sales to people I don't know either buying or selling. As a buyer I am offered no protection from a fraudulent transaction. I also will not pay the ?% to cover their costs, work it into your price and if they pay some other way it's a win.
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that's not entirely true. if you pay FF with a credit card that offers buyer protection, PP will do a chargeback to a FF transaction.
but, i'm with you. i won't pay anyone FF unless i know them.
that said i sold a part to a guy on vwpoortex and he insisted on FF. super long story short he did a chargeback. i was so pissed i called PP and sent the woman screenshots etc of the transaction.
it took what seemed like forever but PP reversed the ruling in my favor. at that time, she said FF was eligible for buyer protection. she said "Well, have you ever sold something to a friend or family member? They can be worse than the general public"
the issue with the whole tax implication is trying to guess the net sale price, and the fact that you're getting double/triple taxed.
so if you sell an item for 100 bux and shipping is 50, you're getting taxed on 150. it's totally fucked up
i'm a casual seller at best but i need to sit down with the accountant and figure all of this shit out. _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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didget69 wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
If you don’t want to sell stuff because you have to pay taxes , don’t sell stuff.
Don’t use the internet, roads , or anything else publically funded in your business either |
... which IRS form do you use when you sell a used car to your neighbor?
- you ARE reporting these transactions, right?
bnc |
That would be capital gains , but you need an accountant to do your math for you, obviously. You have to report income in a sale if you made a profit on it, yes. Schedule C is easiest way to do this as you don’t have to incorporate.
Trying to claim this is too difficult is just justifying tax cheating in one’s own mind. _________________ .ssS! |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16801 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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Abscate wrote: |
Trying to claim this is too difficult is just justifying tax cheating in one’s own mind. |
no not at all. doing it in a way to not trigger anything is the hard part. but i'm sure you claimed all that BMW evaporator money right? and had the proper EPA certs to charge for that work? _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Anything About Paypal |
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EPA defers to the state and 609 isn’t the only way to get on the NY registry at least.
I can’t connect this to PayPal at all so someone smarter than me should do that _________________ .ssS! |
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