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oceanair Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2013 Posts: 720 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:11 pm Post subject: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Hey -- I've got new injectors from fellow Samba Marco and I'll be installing them this weekend.
Any tips -- something I should know?
For my 1.9.
Thanks - _________________ 84 Vanagon Pop Top Conversion from Tin Top, 1970 Ghia - all sweet rides! Love em!
Previous: Green 72 Tin Top, White 72 Westy, Blue 64 Beetle, Yellow 71 Squareback, 2014 Jetta TDI Wagon - wish I could have them all back! |
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Gauche1968 Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2006 Posts: 1518
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Put some oil on the seals, where they enter the heads. _________________ 1984 Vanagon GL
1984 Vanagon Westy |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4772 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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there is a single bolt that uses a 10mm socket that holds the injector pair in. DO NOT break that bolt off! it snaps very easy so if it is not coming out, soak with penetrating oil, tap it a 100 times with a hammer, tighten slightly or loosen trying to get some free movement. take your time to get it out if it is stubborn.
Marco's injectors use a 2 small diameter seal stacked ontop of each other. be sure to keep that configuration. also, you may want to bend a slight bow in the injector retainer held in by above bolt. this puts more down pressure on the large injector rubber ring to hold them in tighter.
examine your fuel rails and don't break the plastic nipples off... just twist the old lines loose and slice them if they don't easily pull off. use non-serrated fuel line clamps like ABA, don't use the cheese-cutter clamps that extrude rubber thru the slots.
it'd be great if you could pulse your fuel pump once the old injectors are off to rinse out the fuel rail. can't have your head up your ass when you do that so if several safety precautions don't come to mind, don't try it.
CHECK FOR LEAKS when you are done. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9798 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Go gently with that little bolt - some PBlaster might be a good idea for an overnight soak.
I've never broken one but it can happen - perhaps by now you have an idea how cooperative or stubborn the old bolts are on your particular van. |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4772 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
Go gently with that little bolt - some PBlaster might be a good idea for an overnight soak.
I've never broken one but it can happen - perhaps by now you have an idea how cooperative or stubborn the old bolts are on your particular van. |
i broke one. successfully drilled it out and was using a tap to clean up the threads... knocked the intake manifold off the bench with the tap still in it and THAT broke off. comedy of errors. tap still in it. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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oceanair Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2013 Posts: 720 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Thanks for the help... I'll be gentle!
Any other tips are appreciated -- how do the electric connections come off? Pry off the metal 'band?' _________________ 84 Vanagon Pop Top Conversion from Tin Top, 1970 Ghia - all sweet rides! Love em!
Previous: Green 72 Tin Top, White 72 Westy, Blue 64 Beetle, Yellow 71 Squareback, 2014 Jetta TDI Wagon - wish I could have them all back! |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4772 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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NO! squeeze the metal band downward toward the plastic and it release _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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T3 Pilot Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1507 Location: Deep South of the Great White North
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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While you are manipulating the injector wiring connectors, keep track of the seals inside... _________________ 1988 Vanagon
The most important part in every vehicle is the nut behind the wheel...... |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32584 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50337
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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My 83 1/2 has the earlier style plugs that are a PITA to get off. You can use a dental pick or small screwdriver to get under one side of the retaining spring and pries it out of its groove. You shouldn't have to do both sides of the retainer spring just the one. While the injectors were out on the bench, I went through and lightly filed the edges of the squarish clips on the injectors where the spring grab to create a slight ram, so that now I can just wiggle the plugs off without messing with the spring. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10248 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Don't use oil on the seals when installing unless you have specific O ring grease that will not attack that seal. General advice is to use a rub of gasoline to lube it. When pressing the injectors into the intake, the hole has an unduly sharp machined edge. So as you're pushing down, swivel the top of the injector in a small circle like its a child's toy top nearly falling over. That will relieve pressure letting the rubber inch its way down into the hole vs trying to carve a chunk out of the rubber if its caught on the edge.
Good advice on pumping a bit out of the open hoses, and the safety comments. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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oceanair Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2013 Posts: 720 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Replacing WBX injectors -- Tips? |
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Thanks everyone -- I didn't get them done yet, but these tips will all be useful this week when I do and I'll report back with anything that is worth adding.
_________________ 84 Vanagon Pop Top Conversion from Tin Top, 1970 Ghia - all sweet rides! Love em!
Previous: Green 72 Tin Top, White 72 Westy, Blue 64 Beetle, Yellow 71 Squareback, 2014 Jetta TDI Wagon - wish I could have them all back! |
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