Original headlights for 1967 Beetle?

[harrymarlin]

I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out the original headlights provided with a 1967 beetle (as I would like to see about getting NOS or good shape originals).

Would they have been Hella SB12s (same as inner and outer rings). Or would Bosch been involved? What markings may have been on the headliggts themselves? H4 marking would have been later, or would that have been on the headlight (to signify the connection type)?

Thanks!
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-Harry
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1967 Ruby Red Convertible Beetle ("Becky")
ISO Albuquerque "Imported Motors" dealership paraphernalia

[67 Florida Deluxe]

I've had several bugs and all headlamp assemblies have been Hella. For '67, the headlight doors (outer trim rings) might be stamped "SB12" at the top, but not always.
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-Kent (BaT "daleallen")

OG member of the '67 Posse

A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental

[67rustavenger]

My (Aug. 66) 67 beetle has the original headlight assemblies. The doors are marked SB12 on the top of the door.
The stainless headlight retaining ring behind the door is also stamped SB12.

Finding a good condition SB12 door is a challenge. I have been looking for a spare for a couple of years. And have had no success to date.

Good Luck.
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[67 Florida Deluxe]

[harrymarlin]

So, I *believe* the sealed beam headlights attach to the inner rings, which attach to the outer rings (for adjustment purposes), and those, in turn, are attched to the buckets. Is this correct?

I'm interested in what the original headlights themselves looked like (66+), rather than the assemblies. Were they Hella, also with SB 12 on the glass? Is H4 on the glass, to signify the connector/prong type? Is there any boot around the prongs, themselves?

My current headlights say Westinghouse, I believe, instead of Hella. So, I was interested in what would have come from the factory.
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-Harry
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1967 Ruby Red Convertible Beetle ("Becky")
ISO Albuquerque "Imported Motors" dealership paraphernalia

[Eric&Barb]

This website is one any air cooled VW owner needs to dig thru:

http://www.oacdp.org/

The 1965 "Damage Numbers" manual is a great source of manufactures of VW parts.
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[TheRide]

OEM Hella sb12, I dont know what the actual headlight itself was, this is the part number for the buckets. The part number for the outside bezels is 311.941.175 A

[harrymarlin]

Thanks for the link. Looking at the docement, it does seem to confirm Bosch, Hella, and another (I don't recognize one of the symbols) have provided headlights over the years. I'm wondering what markings might be on an original headlight for my 67 Beetle to identify it. Would Hella headlights also have had "sb 12" embossed on the glass, for example?
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-Harry
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1967 Ruby Red Convertible Beetle ("Becky")
ISO Albuquerque "Imported Motors" dealership paraphernalia

[TheRide]

[TheRide]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256833

[67 Florida Deluxe]

The sealed beam headlamp units on my '67s were all Westinghouse. The only bulbs I have ever seen in any of all my VWs were Westinghouse, GE and TS. I would be surprised if Hella actually made sealed beam bulbs, as I have never heard of them in all my years of VW-ing.
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-Kent (BaT "daleallen")

OG member of the '67 Posse

A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental

[Jos.Hall]

[harrymarlin]

Ha ha - thanks, you guys... you really are a fount of lnowledge! Jos - you were right, the Bosch symbol sideways threw me on the damage numbers document - thanks for posting the picture. Thanks for sharing about your lenses, 67 Florida Deluxe!
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-Harry
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1967 Ruby Red Convertible Beetle ("Becky")
ISO Albuquerque "Imported Motors" dealership paraphernalia

[daven]

Those lenses are 66 below and not used on 67s?

[harrymarlin]