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Ceckert64 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 11:07 am Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
Some camber is normal. I think I'd go a head and tighten and tack both sides. I don't know why you're having a problem with them though. |
Okay, good to know. I will be going to the junkyard tomorrow to get the special bolt and I will make sure to tack both sides. I’m not sure either why it’s been happening. The other side looks like it started early in life coming out as it had the rust lines showing that. I guess I shouldn’t have cleaned the threads on the bolt
Aiden _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 11:38 am Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Ceckert64 wrote: |
Bobnotch wrote: |
Some camber is normal. I think I'd go a head and tighten and tack both sides. I don't know why you're having a problem with them though. |
Okay, good to know. I will be going to the junkyard tomorrow to get the special bolt and I will make sure to tack both sides. I’m not sure either why it’s been happening. The other side looks like it started early in life coming out as it had the rust lines showing that. I guess I shouldn’t have cleaned the threads on the bolt
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If you do tack it, make sure you tack it in a spot you can get to it in case you need to cut the tack off. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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oxsign Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2006 Posts: 607 Location: Sanford, FL
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 11:49 am Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Ceckert64 wrote: |
Bobnotch wrote: |
Some camber is normal. I think I'd go a head and tighten and tack both sides. I don't know why you're having a problem with them though. |
Okay, good to know. I will be going to the junkyard tomorrow to get the special bolt and I will make sure to tack both sides. I’m not sure either why it’s been happening. The other side looks like it started early in life coming out as it had the rust lines showing that. I guess I shouldn’t have cleaned the threads on the bolt
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Is putting a tack needed? Maybe some blue locktite? I've never had this issue befor and i'm just thinking of being out somewhere and something should happen, what your ability to remove the tackweld would be. _________________ 1971 Squareback, fully bagged, 1776.
Build thread here.....
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0 |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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oxsign wrote: |
Ceckert64 wrote: |
Bobnotch wrote: |
Some camber is normal. I think I'd go a head and tighten and tack both sides. I don't know why you're having a problem with them though. |
Okay, good to know. I will be going to the junkyard tomorrow to get the special bolt and I will make sure to tack both sides. I’m not sure either why it’s been happening. The other side looks like it started early in life coming out as it had the rust lines showing that. I guess I shouldn’t have cleaned the threads on the bolt
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Is putting a tack needed? Maybe some blue locktite? I've never had this issue befor and i'm just thinking of being out somewhere and something should happen, what your ability to remove the tackweld would be. |
I definitely can see how the tack may not be needed but at this points I’d rather be safe that sorry (and wrecked). I see a better chance of being somewhere and it getting loose/ coming out than than the need to take it out TBH.
I did a trip down to the junkyard after school today and got the bolt. I also got one as a spare. I got it installed and I put a tack weld on it. I think I figure out part of the issue I had with it. I think I might have used the wrong torque setting on it. The other side hadn’t rotated at all but I was able it tighten it up a bit and set it and the other side at 58ft pounds of torque per the manual. I did it with the side of the car I was doing with the wheel off the ground. I still can’t believe there was no super obvious signs/noises to tell me the bolt was coming out. Looking back there were a few that might have been but nothing glaring, no vibrations going down the road. Then I went to get gas and one station was out of order
_________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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oxsign wrote: |
Ceckert64 wrote: |
Bobnotch wrote: |
Some camber is normal. I think I'd go a head and tighten and tack both sides. I don't know why you're having a problem with them though. |
Okay, good to know. I will be going to the junkyard tomorrow to get the special bolt and I will make sure to tack both sides. I’m not sure either why it’s been happening. The other side looks like it started early in life coming out as it had the rust lines showing that. I guess I shouldn’t have cleaned the threads on the bolt
Aiden |
Is putting a tack needed? Maybe some blue locktite? I've never had this issue befor and i'm just thinking of being out somewhere and something should happen, what your ability to remove the tackweld would be. |
Well going back a few pages, it was the right side that had backed out, and now the left. That would be enough to make me gun shy, and tack both sides. It doesn't have to be a huge tack, but I'd use your arc welder to tack them (keep most of the heat on the bolt head). Putting more torque on the right side bolt got it tight, and hadn't had the time to back off like it did previously. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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my gawd. i didnt look through the entire thread until now. that hoe was rustee! good to see you making her 1 piece again.
when r you gonna class 11 baja the thing? _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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The MVVC Festival went great! The drive and there went well. At the very start of the trip I stopped a few miles from my house to get gas and a guy stopped me and said your valve cover is leaking. I look and there is a huge puddle of oil well, I had just checked the valve adjusted and I had gotten the valve on right and the cover caught on the edge of the head. Thankfully we stopped for gas and the guy caught that. I ended up going back home and topped off with oil and brought some extra. I was so lucky because the engine would have been toast if that wasn’t caught
Here are some photos from the day, I only got pictures of the show as everyone was clearing out and leaving so there aren’t many cars in the background.
While at the show I got to meet some members that are on the forums here Greg (Typ3nut), John and Jill (jaransonT3) in their 66 Squareback and got to see Dan (DQDAN) again. It was nice getting to talk and meet everyone! I plan on heading to the German invasion at the Gilmore Car museum next an Deb hopefully we can meet up again! _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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To backtrack a little, I have a few mechanical updates:
I decided to install a new center dash speaker and while I was at it decided to rebuild the fresh air boxes. So I started by tearing down the dash so I could get to everything. Also taking out the seats is a must to do that job. It would have been much harder with them left in. I let the glove box hang down and the wiper motor has enough wiring to take it out and set it aside but you don’t have to disconnect it.
In the picture below, you can see the three plastic welds on the fresh air box. If you are wanting to replace the foam seal like I did, you will have to get these spot welds apart. I melted them apart with a torch. Then there are two seams near the outer welds that are melted between the parts. Then you take out the flaps
Once I had the flaps out, I cleaned them and put on new foam pieces
Then I put it together and got the plastics hot and crimped it back together, but you may want to do something else
_________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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nice work! btw, im not trying to sound rude or pick on your cars flaws but... paint that floor pan yo!!!
also, is that a water leak?
but still nice work! _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:48 am Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
nice work! btw, im not trying to sound rude or pick on your cars flaws but... paint that floor pan yo!!!
also, is that a water leak?
but still nice work! |
Thanks! I know they need to be painted, and I just found another pin hole in the driver’s side pan I need to fix, I already have close to 10 patch pieces on that side.
The water leak, yes. So another reason I decided to take them apart was to clean them. We had some big rains and I got in the car and took off, water started coming out of the vent and going on my leg The next I decided to blow air up the tube because that will usually unclog it. I did that, then the water got through and the tube was filled with water and I pinched it and tried to put it back in the drain holes but it came disconnected from the fresh air box and a full fresh air box of water spilled into my car I had tried to mop most of it up but it was still drying at that point. So the water leak is fixed _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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To start off, it’s decently good, not completely though but I’m within 60 miles of having put 10k miles on the car Fairly bug milestone I think.
Well, I managed to enlarge the crack in the windshield I found an engine stand at a garage sale for $20 and I’ve been looking for one. It didn’t fit in the back so I decided I would try to fit it in the back seat, I moved the seat forward and moved the backrest up and was pushing against the seat and the headrest popped out the windshield and cracked it. You can see the gap between the seal and body. It only popped out on the one corner and it went back in easy but now I have a huge crack and will get a new windshield now.
I also want to do the headliner if I do the windshield with other seals since the headliner is very ugly
Most import thing is I have going now is I want to get some new valves on the engine. I noticed the exhaust valves are stretching so I need to do that. I had a great plan in my head that I would rebuild the spare set of T3 heads I had so I could make a weekend job of doing the heads. Well… I cleaned them up and every chamber had a crack between the intake seat and plug hole and each head had one chamber with a crack between seats.
The I have a nice looking T1 head but it’s a low compression and T1 so not that. So that leads me to thinking, do you guys think 46,000 mile heads will have cracks? Could I get some new valves, lap, and install them? But I’m afraid I may end up getting it parked for a few weeks waiting for stuff to get done. But, my local VW shop has a couple T3 engines sitting outside I’m sure he’d let me get the heads off but they have been sitting outside and could be a risk. The main thing is getting heads wirh the CHT sensor hole, or is there a spot on a T1 head it could be mounted. Any thoughts? _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Cracks between seats are pretty common and while not ideal are not really a concern. Cracks between the seat and plug hole are, though. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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DQDan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2016 Posts: 351 Location: Cleveland OH
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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I've got a couple of DP heads that might be better than what you've got, late ones as well. I'll dig them out and send you some pics. IIRC I had one good SP and one good DP. go figure. |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2015 Posts: 1956 Location: Manitowoc, WI
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Tram wrote: |
Cracks between seats are pretty common and while not ideal are not really a concern. Cracks between the seat and plug hole are, though. |
Yeah, I’m disappointed they are garbage the engine those heads were on was in the PNW and it was driven to its death and I’m sure it was severely abused.
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I've got a couple of DP heads that might be better than what you've got, late ones as well. I'll dig them out and send you some pics. IIRC I had one good SP and one good DP. go figure. |
I may be interested, I will message you tomorrow, thanks! _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
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Ceckert64 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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Just thought I’d update a bit. I found that me and Joann made it into the September 2021 HotVWs! I picked up the magazine at a store on vacation and got it and then read through and found I was in it! A small mention but cool.
I’ve been lately getting annoyed by my rough idle and issues with hot starts and I’m going to try some different injectors, a new pressure regulator and maybe a new fuel pump. I figure it wouldn’t hurt as all of the current parts I’m running are original VW/Bosch, the injectors may be replacements but they are at least 20-30 years old that came off a severely worm engine that had blown up. So I have a question, should I get remanufactured injectors or new ones? Remanufactured are cheaper but what is better? _________________ 1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: My 1970 Elm Green Squareback (Joann) |
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before you buy new ones, take the current injectors out. hook to a fuel pump, and inject power into the prongs. note the spray pattern and volume.
sometimes its obvious if they dirty or bad, but you can grab a bucket, let her rip for a minute, then measure how much you got.
You should have 18lbs/hr. which is 189cc/min. (Btw these injectors are good up to 120ish hp with a real ecu), so you dont need to upgrade to the T4 injectors unless you want to just because.
Heres some cheap off brand injectors,
https://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/DC/17363-0518...dQQAvD_BwE
Another thing you can do either after testing the above method or without testing at all, is to run some seafoam or injector purge. When injector clog it alters the spray pattern and limits flow, and because your ecu barely counts as a computer, it can make the needed fuel map changes. Yours is a closed loop system if that even what you call it given its not smart. at all. no offense
I would also test your IAT sensor, your Oil temp sensor(if it has one), and MAF.
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Today I found the injector o-rings seals, both large and small. For others looking for the part numbers where you go:
1.Large seals #311 133 263
2.Small seals #311 133 261
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you also have many of the T1/T4 injectors which are interchangable but with different part numbers.
"Model Disp. Engine Code Bosch number VW/P Number Injector Flow rate VIN Range
74 412 1.7L EC 0 280 150 114 023-906-031 185cc/min
74-75 914 1.7L, 1.8L EB, EC, AN 0 280 150 112 023-906-031 185cc/min
74 Bus Calif. Automatic 1.8L ED 2 132 408 - 214 2 300 000
75-79 Bus 1.8L, 2.0L ED, GD, GE 0 280 150 114 023-906-031 185cc/min
75-76 Beetle (early) 1.6L AJ 0 280 150 112 022-906-031C 185cc/min
76 912E 2.0L GC 0 280 150 105 923 606 109 00 187cc/min
77-79 Beetle (late) 1.6L AJ 0 280 150 116 023-906-031 185cc/min ending with 080 255 (manual), 012 800 (automatic)
80-83 Vanagon 2.0L CV 0 280 150 114 023-906-031 185cc/min Up to 24-A-230 000"
Its much easier to read here ---->
https://ratwell.com/technical/Injectors.html _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
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