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jschwerdtfeger Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2013 Posts: 65 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Hey all,
I just had the Gowesty bigger brake kit installed along with the GW drum overhaul kit and stainless lines all around. The brake pedal is pulsing now (wasn't before), and the mechanics are telling me that it's the GW pads needing to break in or seat. I've had my fair share of break jobs done, though none this extensive and have never had a pulsing brake pedal after the job. I think something needs adjustment, or the new rotors are defective. The pulsing is most noticeable at the top of the pedal stroke and gets better as the brakes are applied.
Thoughts? _________________ //JS |
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Igeo Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2018 Posts: 888 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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If it didn't pulse before the big brakes, and the drums out back weren't changed, then that points to the new rotors. I agree, the pad break-in is not likely to matter, but go ahead and put 500 miles on them and see what it does. In the end, I think checking the run-out of the rotors using a dial indicator will tell the tale. _________________ 1987 Westfalia 2.1 WBX Manual |
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erste Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2013 Posts: 1110 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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You can pull up on the parking brake while driving slowly and if it pulses, that would point to it being the rear drums. |
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jschwerdtfeger Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2013 Posts: 65 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Both good suggestions, thanks! _________________ //JS |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1491 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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The rotors should spin straight without the pads on. They show this on the VanCafe big front brake video. Got mine on straight no problem. When I took them off after a few years I had a bugger of a time getting one back on straight. Finally figured it out to pound it back on using a block of wood between rotor and hammer. |
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dschaftlein Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2016 Posts: 105
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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I had the same problem with a different big brake kit and rebuilt the rear brakes as well. My mechanic told me the same... but it didn't get any better. We replaced the drums and problem solved.
From what I understand if your brakes are pulsing suspect the drums. |
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Igeo Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2018 Posts: 888 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Mine pulsed before I installed my big brake kit, and it still pulsed after. So I replaced the drums and it was fixed. Presumably the GW rear brake kit you got included shoes, springs and cylinders. If so, maybe the new shoes don't conform well to the inside of the old drums (if they weren't replaced). Used to be that brake shops would machine the drums, then "arc" the linings so there would be no high/low spots or other unconformites. _________________ 1987 Westfalia 2.1 WBX Manual |
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rmcd Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2010 Posts: 1349 Location: PNW - its a dry rain.
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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I had another unknown vendors bbk and newish rear drums from same. They pulsed.
I took them to a brake shop and had them turn the discs and drums.
Butter. _________________ VW LT40 build. Like a Vanagon but 30% larger in every direction and 40% slower even in metric.
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Did you also buy new drums from go westy? There are lots of reports of their drums needing to be turned before use. Not sure why they don't do that themselves before shipping them out, but maybe look into that if you bought gowesty drums. _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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ELO78 Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2015 Posts: 168 Location: Oak Park, IL
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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GW has a note about their HD finned brake drums on the product page:
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Important Note: These new GoWesty black-coated drums are coated on all surfaces, including the friction surface the brake shoes rub against. You may experience some brake surging until the brake shoes have worn all the way through the coating and the material dissipates, a process that takes no more than a few days of regular driving. |
I'm running these, and I have some surging or pulsing. I've been running them since late summer, but not that many miles. As noted above, there are reports that they may need to be turned down. _________________ Eric
1990 Westy Multivan, 2.1 L WBX, 4-speed - SOLD
2003 EuroVan Westy Weekender |
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jschwerdtfeger Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2013 Posts: 65 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Looks like it's the rear GW finned drums. GW says they'll break in after 500 miles, so I'll try that 1st. _________________ //JS |
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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By "break in" they mean they're making you use your new brake shoes to wear away the surface that they should already be turning themselves before they send them out to their customers. I wouldn't do that nonsense, I would just take them off and take them to a shop and have them turned. _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6559 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Brake pedal pulse after Gowesty Bigger Brake kit install... |
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Typical GW. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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