$200 AFR Meter & Go

[busey]

Since its no longer possible to rent an AFR thru aircooled.net , word on the street is they are now sub $200 . So lets hear what the top 3 +- $200 AFR Meters are to dial in a 48 IDA 9-1cr street motor w/MagnaSpark II ignition system;

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[67rustavenger]

Not quite under $200. But it is what I have.
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Innovate-MTX-L-PLUS-Wideband-Kit-3918-p/innovate-3918.htm

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[King_vw61]

The plx use to be right at 200. Is works good. Also seconds as a volt meter.

[FullFender]

Went through something like 4 Innovate Sensors in 6 months. Could never get it working, some not even out of the box. Clone suggested I buy a PLX and lets just say ive never had to worry about it again

[clonebug]

I bought a PLX in May of 2014 and have over 33,000 miles on the original O2 sensor.
It's never given a problem and it never needs to be calibrated. It will also tell you how much life is left in the sensor.
I have the Gen 3 version....the Gen 4 is out and probably even better. It takes the 4.9 series O2 sensor.
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[jim martin]

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[lelef]

Innovate in 2 cars with microsquirt, on the vw air cooled one sensor fail ,it is not in the best position there is a lot of heat all around the external part of the sensor but there is no way to put it in a better way,one time finished with autotune I've disabled the lambda , sometimes check if it is still working to understand what was really the problem if it fails again.
On a v8 positioned as suggested ,good ventilation around sensor and cables and never a problem.
I don't think Innovate is really good, response and precision should be better but is possible to obtain a good map using it
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[oprn]

I bought my Innovative one from aircooled.net. Zero issues with it to date. But then it's the hand held model and I only use it for tuning and take the sensor back out. I see no need for me to run one all the time.

[Brian_e]

I have installed 3 AEM in different vw's. All still working great. Easy O2 sensores also.

Brian
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[andy198712]

I use a plx and works great
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[Ohio Tom]

shoot for 12/1 or less at WOT for best performance..

[buguy]

From what I have read the new style 4.9 LSU is a little more prone to failure because the elemnt is thinner. Which is what makes it read more quickly than the old ones. From what I have read it is that element breaking that usually causes failure.

[heimlich]

That's a nice device.

Is there an easier one to use that doesn't require a hole in the muffler?
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[67 Sunroof]

The innovate used the Bosch 02 and it believe it is very easily messed up. I went through 2 or 3 because mine was running rich and messed them up.
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[oprn]

Mine has never seen richer than 11/1 or 11.5/1. That is pretty rich! I don't think you need a wide band to diagnose a condition that rich. That is where mine runs with the chokes on for starting.

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You wouldn’t make it quite under $200, but PLX has a Bluetooth adapter to use your smartphone if not interested in adding gauges to your dash.

[jim martin]

so are you saying the software is damaging the Bosch sensors cause im pretty sure all the listed above units are using the Bosch sensors except for the ngk unit which uses the expensive NTK sensor which will read richer and leaner than the Bosch LSU sensors
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