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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9767 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:52 pm Post subject: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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I picked up a Leistritz muffler from the classifieds for an SP engine I'm building.
It cost more than many would spend. Buy once! Cry once!
But I figure that my time is worth more than the price increase versus fitting a Jopex muffler that many vendors are selling these day's. Many here have complained that the Jopex mufflers are terrible to fit-up. Right out of the box.
So my question is...
What to paint it with, or is paint really needed? The muffler gets hot and burns off the paint anyway.
I have painted headers in the past with VHT high temp header paint. The paint curing process involved baking the headers in an oven. That was easy. But a complete VW muffler will not fit in an oven for curing.
What would you do?
Thank you for reading. _________________ I have learned over the years.
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7028 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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I'd run it as is. Mufflers normally rust from the inside out anyway, so stripping and painting it won't make much difference in the long run. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12854 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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Run it. It will burn the paint off in short order, then wire brush it off & paint it with some VHT or other header paint.
The VHT instructions also include a run on car cure process. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9767 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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mukluk wrote: |
I'd run it as is. Mufflers normally rust from the inside out anyway, so stripping and painting it won't make much difference in the long run. |
Perfect. That was my thought as well. Just wanted to check with my fellow enthusiasts.
Thank you for the input. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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FL-Frank Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2015 Posts: 823 Location: Jupiter, Florida
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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Have you considered ceramic coating? _________________ “Tinker Toy” 1967 Savannah Beige Beetle Sedan...........Mostly Original Survivor
“Fritz” 1964 Gulf Blue Karmann Ghia Coupe...Complete Pan-Off Restoration SOLD |
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3328 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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Would it fit in your barbecue for curing? _________________ "Albatross"! |
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cyclehobby Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2013 Posts: 156 Location: North Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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Though I don't know the brand, during my rebuild last winter I thoroughly wire brushed and sanded my stock muffler, then painted it with silver, VHT paint.
Because the rebuilding process took some time, the muffler had a month to sit and cure on it's own. I think that helped. Once I installed it, it must have cured some more while being used because it still looks good overall.
Over the last driving season for this NOT DAILY driver (in NJ that's Spring through Fall), I've touched up a couple spots with a hit of spray paint after a quick wire brushing, but it still looks pretty good.
Any muffler paint is going to hold up better on cars that are not daily drivers. Clearly, driving in the rain/snow is sure to make exterior muffler paint much more susceptible to peeling and rust.
In my opinion, paint or not, it's up to you. _________________ 1967 Beetle
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bruce jones Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2003 Posts: 324 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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I like to use VHT Grey Engine Primer. It's pretty close to the original color on these mufflers, readily available, pretty durable, and easy to re-touch.
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6609 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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I'd paint it. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34009 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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This stuff has been hard to find in stock, and many won't ship to California, but at one time I bought this at a Pep Boys and it's worked great over the years. It's pretty close to the flat dark gray they came painted with.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Rust-Oleum-High-Heat-Flat...lsrc=aw.ds
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matthew henricks Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2002 Posts: 1219 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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For those of you who used the high heat primers did you overcoat the primer or run it as is? Was not thinking it could be used as a top coat.
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2506 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Leistritz Muffler Paint or not? |
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matthew henricks wrote: |
For those of you who used the high heat primers did you overcoat the primer or run it as is? |
You can do it either way...just depends on what you want the final color to be. The top coat needs to be hi-temp paint as well.
Also, you really don't need to follow the elaborate curing process that's recommend for most of these hi-heat rattle can paints. I just strip the original finish off the muffler, then spray on a few thin coats of hi-temp paint without using any primer. After the paint fully dries, I install the muffler and let exhaust heat do the curing as I drive the car as I normally do. I have one muffler that's been in service for 10 years that was done like this and it still looks great. _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
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