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Danny604 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2019 Posts: 89 Location: Port Coquitlam BC Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:44 pm Post subject: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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My 59 beetle is really hard to see at night, what is the best rear light bulb to use? Ive bought some siemens LED but they were actually dimmer than the off the shelf 1154 incandescent I had before, I guess the LED relies on the reflection in a modern tail light, which the beetle does not have. What are you guys using?
The front has an H4, so we are all good there. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24736 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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How much of the voltage at the battery is getting to the taillights??
Have you removed the defuser/dimming lens in each TL??
Were you using red LEDs? White ones will not produce a whole lot of red that will get thru the glass lens.
You should seek LED lights to install on the rear license plate frame. Yellow L/R sides of the frame for TS/brakes helps a ton for drivers behind you to understand where you are going. Can add red running lights on top and/or bottom. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 2685 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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I had the same concern with my 6 volt 1960 bug regarding visibility both at night and during daylight hours. I purchased the LED rear light kit from the Samba classifieds sold by Chip B. The rear tail, brake and signals are substantially brighter with this kit. I was very pleased with the quality of the kit. Even in daylight the brake and turn signals are much more visible.
You are looking at $100 for the kit plus an LED compatible flasher @$30. I know this is obviously a lot more money than just buying a couple bulbs. I debated about buying the kit but I’m glad I did. I knew I would be keeping the car for a long time and I just felt that the increased visibility justified the cost. _________________ 1960 beetle
1970 beetle convertible |
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my59 Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 3791 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:28 am Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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Check for voltage drop; cleaning every connection in the wiring path usually helps. My issue is that the difference between the rear tail lights vs brake lights being on is not that great; you might watch to think 3rd brake light or rear window or in grille under the window.
Driving a black car with 6v lights that are compromised requires additional situational awareness. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
our79: sunroof bus w/camper interior and 2.0 FI
Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1773 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:02 am Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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I bought a set of these:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=892796
And they are amazing. I highly recommend them for anyone with snowflake tail lights.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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vwuberalles Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1357 Location: Richmond, VA
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wayne1230cars Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 2685 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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I have that set as well. Much brighter than stock. _________________ 1960 beetle
1970 beetle convertible |
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Zwitterkafer Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2007 Posts: 878 Location: Lanark County, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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Here's a much cheaper approach, assuming that full voltage is reaching the tail-lights. It addresses one of the main problems....the lack of contrast between tail-light on and brake light on:
1) Remove the dark plastic diffuser.
2) Solder on a dedicated ground wire to the bulb holder. Connect wire to a good ground in engine compartment.
3) Add a series resistance to the feed to the tail-light circuit. Choose a resistance that dims the tail-lights back down to normal when viewed though the diffuser-removed lens. (IIRC a couple of 6V bulbs solder-wired in parallel and suitably mounted in a small housing can do the trick)
Voila: Brake / Turn signal brightness & contrast improved w.r.t. tail-lights. _________________ "Criticism comes easier than Craftsmanship"
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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ALWAYS go with LED's unless your an absolute purist. they are better in every way and last forever. stop using old tech |
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Dangermouse Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: Beautiful New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
stop using old tech |
So just buy a Honda? If I'm stubborn enough to stick with all six of my available volts, I'm stubborn enough to stick with bulbs that operate by making a little piece of tungsten wire heat up and glow. To retain a 6V system and switch to LED lights doesn't make sense to me, just go to 12V and be happy. I appreciate many or most disagree. _________________ Do not follow me, for I may not lead. Do not lead me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either; actually just bugger off and stand over there will you. |
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Danny604 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2019 Posts: 89 Location: Port Coquitlam BC Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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i should have mentioned the car is 12V. I will get a set of those LED's.
Thanks for the information |
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HBRag Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: 59 beetle, hard to see at night |
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Here is mine with Chips Snowflake LED lights, and a row of red LEDs inside the top vent. I ran an extra wire down the left side roof channel, off the brake switch, before the turn signal switch.
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vwuberalles Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1357 Location: Richmond, VA
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