Somebody Stop Me...Another One: 1968 Beetle

[Pruneman99]

[67ctbug]

Here’s where we’re at now. Sounds better but still not running.

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[Pruneman99]

I'm assuming you have the coil energized with however you are jumping that right?

No backfire through the carb, so turn the distributor counterclockwise. I actually like to move the distributor while it's cranking to hear any change.

Does the carb have the anti-runon jet at the side? If so, make sure it has power.

How are you feeding fuel?

Post a picture of the engine bay if possible. Especially the distributor and how you have it wired. Sometimes we can spot an issue that has been overlooked.

[67ctbug]

Got a wire from coil to voltage reg.
No idea about carb.
Starting fluid only.

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[67ctbug]

Sorry I was mistaken. I have a wire from the coil directly to the positive battery terminal.
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[VW_Jimbo]

[67ctbug]

[Pruneman99]

That's sounding like it wants to go. See the cylinder shape thing on the drivers side of the carb? That needs to be hooked into the coil + side with hot from key. Also, the choke needs to be hooked to the same place. Just make a wire to clip on the coil to another connector to reach the cut off jet, then another to the choke.

So like
Coil........Cut off.........Choke
C---------------C-----------------C

The C's being terminal ends. Hopefully that makes sense.

You can fill the carb bowl manually by carefully poring gas down the little tube at the mouth of the carb. A little pipette or a tiny funnel helps.

[67ctbug]

[Pruneman99]

[67ctbug]

Alright so we have a problem. Previously, I was using some wires to start it because I had no keys. When I pulled the flasher switch then, it lit up. Now, it won’t light up and the new key I have doesn’t do anything. No clicks, no engine turning over, nada.
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'67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[Rome]

Plug wire orientation looks correct on the cap. The only wire I can clearly see is the one going to cylinder #4. The next wire going CW on the cap is going to the other left cylinder which would be the front one #3. The next cap wire CW is the long one going around the back of the engine. Even though I can't see to which cylinder it's connected, it's "most likely" for #2. Just make sure the wire end is going to the rear (rear of car) on the right head which is cyl. #2. That leaves the last wire which you can't see, going to cyl. #1. That cap orientation corresponds to the correct firing order 1-4-3-2.

For fuel, I found that a pointy-nosed plastic condiments squeeze bottle fits nicely into the carb vent pipe. Put some clean gas into that bottle and squeeze a load into the carb float bowl. Probably find one at the Dollar Store. https://www.berlinpackaging.com/3390b01nat-8-oz-natural-ldpe-plastic-condiment-bottles/

[67ctbug]

I figured out the problem actually red wire fell off the positive battery cable so wasn’t getting any power. Now it turns over just fine. Now to get it to run.
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[sb001]

[67ctbug]

Just when trying to start. Now I have a key though.
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[randayn]

I was going to tell you to STOP. LOL... But that motor wants to run!
It just needs some CPR. Care, Patience, Resolve.
Do a proper tune up. Spend a few bucks and some time. Don't 1/2 ass it.
New plugs, clean carb, new points, oil change, adjust the valves, fresh fuel.
I have restored many antique engines . Before I make them run, I prepare them to run. Due diligence. I have had much success with my method.

The picture you show is just weird. It looks like one plug wire is not connected, the other wire is running next to the belt. The distributer advance is open. You are using starter fluid and a hot wire? I am not a regular here but maybe someone can give you better advice.

Good luck with this project. If you have a few thousand dollars and a few thousand more you might break even. I am serious Stop. LOL.

[67ctbug]

Yeah, I need to put some oil in and adjust everything. There are a couple extra plugs hanging around the engine bay, didn’t pull them out when I was swapping them with extra wires I had. Don’t plan on what I did to the ‘67. I’m gonna do a battery tray, and probably call it quits. Just an average driver. If it passed a NY state inspection it should be fine, even if it was 1986
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[Tom K.]

The plug wire orientation might be correct but possibly 180 degrees off. That sound of the engine almost igniting is what you get when the dizzy drive gear is in backwards might be worth a quick try rotating each plug two spots.
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[alex857]

I see no positive wire here on the electromagnetic cut off valve on the left side of the carb. It blicks the carburetor. This might prevent the engine from running.

[67ctbug]

All the wires are hooked up now. Still won’t start.
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'67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016