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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:31 pm    Post subject: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

I have a 74 Super Beetle daily driver, looks like the Master Cylinder has started leaking, this one has lasted 7 years. I’m getting too old to contort myself to replace them, who is a source for a top quality Master Cylinder? I don’t recall where I got this one but I think it was manufactured in Belgum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

About six years ago, I bought mine from Wolfsburg West. It was advertised as “German”. I can’t remember exactly, but I believe it was an ATE.

No problems with it whatsoever.

WW says to bench bleed, but I didn’t. I simply installed it, along with new German drums in the rear, and a front disc conversion.

First, I gravity bled the fronts, then the rears. Then my daughter helped me, using the two-man method of normal bleeding.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

This is about the 5th or 6th one in 30 years, learned my lesson early on getting cheap ones. Just found one a few minutes ago from CIP1 that is their premium one, I think it is Brax brand, $60, European made, Jbugs has a German made one for $110. There is also a big difference on the wheel cylinders. I’ve never bench bled, when I replaced the rear wheel cylinders a year ago I borrowed the vacuum bleeder from Autozone and that worked well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

Certainly there are variations in quality among aftermarket choices. You can get ATE German cylinders from WW or Febi brand or Varga Brazilian and there’s also our most favored trading partners, the red chinese. I wonder if keeping the fluid clean and water out helps at all? VW wanted us to flush @48k miles or 2 years. If I lived in Grove I might drive over to Tulsa and visit Eric at the Bughaus 😀
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

The MC in my 1971 Super is a 25-year-old rebuilt one from Autozone, with a lifetime warranty. Who would guess??
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

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. If I lived in Grove I might drive over to Tulsa and visit Eric at the Bughaus 😀


I will check out Bughaus, have not heard of them before. I refuse to put anything Chinese on my German VW, I will spend the kids inheritance for top quality parts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

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The MC in my 1971 Super is a 25-year-old rebuilt one from Autozone, with a lifetime warranty. Who would guess??


I had horrible luck with the Autozone ones.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

jayhawkokie wrote:
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The MC in my 1971 Super is a 25-year-old rebuilt one from Autozone, with a lifetime warranty. Who would guess??


I had horrible luck with the Autozone ones.


Likely 25 years ago mine was a German casting/core.

But I have at least one rear wheel cylinder from Autozone on my other VW.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

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Zundfolge1432 wrote:
. If I lived in Grove I might drive over to Tulsa and visit Eric at the Bughaus 😀


I will check out Bughaus, have not heard of them before. I refuse to put anything Chinese on my German VW, I will spend the kids inheritance for top quality parts.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

[quote="Zundfolge1432"][quote="jayhawkokie"]
Zundfolge1432 wrote:
. If I lived in Grove I might drive over to Tulsa and visit Eric at the Bughaus 😀[/quote


Have you checked out Foul Air Klub on Facebook?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

No but only because I’m not on Facebook. I’ve been to their get together in Springdale and also seen them in Eureka. Great people very active with VW scene.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

I hope to attend one of their get togethers this year.

I just checked out Bughaus, they have an OEM German master cylinder for the same price other vendors have, the store is pretty easy to get to, may have to make a trip over there. I'm not real crazy about driving in Tulsa.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

jayhawkokie wrote:
I hope to attend one of their get togethers this year.

I just checked out Bughaus, they have an OEM German master cylinder for the same price other vendors have, the store is pretty easy to get to, may have to make a trip over there. I'm not real crazy about driving in Tulsa.


Do it as excuse to see Route 66, yes it is on the mother road😀


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
jayhawkokie wrote:
I hope to attend one of their get togethers this year.

I just checked out Bughaus, they have an OEM German master cylinder for the same price other vendors have, the store is pretty easy to get to, may have to make a trip over there. I'm not real crazy about driving in Tulsa.


Do it as excuse to see Route 66, yes it is on the mother road😀


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I rode my trike on Route 66 over there a couple years ago to eat lunch with friends.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: 74 Super beetle master cylinder Reply with quote

Does anyone know if we can use the standard M/C rebuild kit for our 1303 M/C?
Getting a new RHD M/C is too expensive ($200 each). saw this rebuild kit from machine 7
https://www.machine7.com/product.php?xProd=13157&xSec=3362
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