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Silverghost500 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:02 pm Post subject: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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This may be one of those that should go in the silly questions category, but is anyone connecting a Renogy 100w panel with MC4 connectors to the GoWesty Solar connection box? If so, what adapter are you using to connect the two?
I've got the GoWesty solar box wired up to a Renogy Adventurer controller ready to go. _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9620 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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My general plan (which I have not yet done).
100w Renogy panel, just below "visible" in the Westy cargo area.
I have this 100W panel now, and I'm working on the mounting.
I have an "MC4 to SAE" adapter.
In the cargo area, an SAE pigtail from the charge controller connects to the 100W panel.
The panel will be remove-able (remoteable) and I will make a couple 25 foot extension cords with SAE ends.
The next step is to buy a 50w flat/flex panel that is stored in the upstairs mattress. It will plug into the GoWesty box (for 150w). _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6585 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Good plan on the portable option, Sodo — and in hiding the panel. Might want a cover, too, if charging via alternator just to save excess baking.
I'd recommend a 15-footer, and a 35-footer. We only need our 30-ish-foot extension about 10% of the time.
Our standard cord is maybe ten but would prefer 15 maybe half the time we don't use the extension — so you might go 20 in coming from the roof. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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Silverghost500 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Sodo, do you have a part number for the MC4 to SAE adapter? I ordered an adapter off Amazon, but realized the MC4 connections on it are male, as are the MC4 connections on the solar panel wires. _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
3-Speed Automatic
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dobryan Samba Member
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E1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Oops, Sorry Dave, I just meant when getting alternator charge, there's no need having the panel exposed and baking in the sun, getting hailed on, whatever. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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dobryan Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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E1 wrote: |
Oops, Sorry Dave, I just meant when not needing solar charge for getting alternator charge, there's no need having the panel exposed and baking in the sun, getting hailed on, whatever. |
Since they are made to bake in the sun for at least 20 years I would not go thru the trouble, although covering it cannot hurt it just one more thing to deal with.
Softball size hail is a different matter!
It is all good either way. _________________ Dave O
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E1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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I've probably just driven through it once (or a hundred times) too often.
We just spent about a month in and near Cheyenne last year. It's positively mind-blowing how routine hail is in that stretch from there to the east, all the way to Iowa.
But Yeah, where Sodo is, not so much. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
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Silverghost500 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Here's photos of what I have so far, including photo of the MC4 to SAE adapter. The question is do I need a polarity adapter?
_________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
3-Speed Automatic
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Silverghost500 wrote: |
Sodo, do you have a part number for the MC4 to SAE adapter? I ordered an adapter off Amazon, but realized the MC4 connections on it are male, as are the MC4 connections on the solar panel wires. |
I have the same parts as you, and don't understand your problem.
WRT your 3 pics, can you plug
the solar panel into the adapter,
and the adapter into the GoWesty outlet?
Wait a minute, kinda looks like your Y-adapter is not an "SAE plug".
(GoWesty pic)
Are you saying your adapter won't insert into the GoWesty box?
Here's my 'parts' all plugged together.
This "SAE outlet" will be placed in the cargo area to connect the panel.
I didn't get the GoWesty box (yet?).
I'm considering to put an SAE outlet in my (un-used) regfrigerator flue vent.
And a pic of the "advanced mounting" that I'm working on....
Where the Renogy 100W panel is removeable,
angle-able, can accommodate the sacrificial Westy campfire wood pile,
and sits out of view in the cargo area, with space below for the extension cord and maybe some 2x4s for leveling etc. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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Silverghost500 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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The adapter will fit the GoWesty solar connector box. The issue is that the polarity of the adapter appears to be backward.
_________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
3-Speed Automatic
Von Westy YouTube Channel
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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Silverghost500 wrote: |
The adapter will fit the GoWesty solar connector box. The issue is that the polarity of the adapter appears to be backward. |
OK...... DUHHHH.....sorry
My outlet "included" a polarity adapter for that problem.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sae+polarity+adapter
I suppose you would tape-wrap it onto the offending SAE plug end. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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dobryan Samba Member
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Silverghost500 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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I wound up buying 20ft extension cables and a 5-pack of polarity adapters. I'll keep them in the Westy drawer and glove box. Planning on getting everything hooked up this weekend to test. _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Renogy 100w Panel with GoWesty Solar Box |
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I have to clean up my solar wiring too.
I would choose the battery side as the ‘gender decider’ because there’s more amps on the battery side. Perhaps 100s, but fused to a finite amount, perhaps 10A for the panel. Or maybe 15A to run some 12v accessory or to accommodate an additional remote panel.
Where the positive in the GoWesty (van side) outlet is the “more protected” = “more recessed” = the female receptacle of the SAE pair.
Any outlet bolted to the van (=battery) has the ”12v +“ battery side as female/recessed/protected.
The solar panel wire terminal would then have its positive terminal “exposed”.
Which is limited to the amps of the 100w panel (100w/20v=5A).
Then tape-wrap the gender-changer sorta permanently onto the extension wire, if reversal is req’d.
Problem is, the reverser taped onto the “plug” gets to be over 3” long sticking out there to get knocked off. So try to do the reversing under the panel (if necessary).
I couldn’t have five reversers floating around, they would quickly dwindle to zero. I’d have a better chance monitoring “one”.
Kinda strange how the “red and the black” in the past was always helpful, but conspire to confuse in this case.
Well that’s how I have it worked out in my mind, hope something here is useful and if not then I’ll learn something for my project. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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