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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Today I finished up the small job of the beetles jack mini restoration. This is how the jack looked prior to getting it all tidied up:
I had most of the parts blasted and powder coated in black and had the base powdered in a blue. The shaft, spring, and 3 clips I wet sanded 600-2000 and then steel wooled 0000 with mother’s mag polish. All in all it looks crisp
Small fun project.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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working on a few small projects here and there, one of which is the pedal assembly. I decided to tackle some of these small fun ones while getting the body components worked on and getting the shell out to paint. The shop is a tad behind, but should be getting my bug in shortly.
So here is what my pedal assembly looked like before the mini Resto:
I had everything powder coated with the exception of the accelerator pedal and the main body. I decided not to get these 2 parts done as I did not want the original VW roller pedal to melt and get ruined and have to run an after market one. As for the main body I didn't want the bushings or internals to get coated and cause the parts to not move freely. So these 2 parts I sanded down and primed and painted black. This is before:
Here is all the finished parts prior to assembly.
I cleaned and degreased all the internal moving parts and then greased them back up with new stuff. This past Christmas I received these small logo VW pedal pads; I could not locate a set of large logo ones and these are next best. Here is the final finished product:
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Dan22 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2019 Posts: 465 Location: Battle Ground, WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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That looks awesome.
The bushings were still nice and not too loose I presume? I am debating on replacing the bushings on mine when I get to that point. _________________ 1-0900722 die langsame grüne Schildkröte
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=765074 |
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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yeah it still all moves nice and smooth so I figured I would just keep what was in there. Some of these after market parts I am finding out quickly are far more inferior than the original stuff. So try to save what I can and they still looked good as well. |
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tomsbuggered Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 417 Location: Calgary, AB Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Looking good on the pedal assembly.
So satisfying to restore something to near new again. _________________ June 1956 VW Oval Beetle |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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How much are you charging to restore jacks? Man it looks great |
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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txoval wrote: |
How much are you charging to restore jacks? Man it looks great |
Lol send it over I was very impressed at how nice it came out. I ended up taking the 3 retaining clips/ rings and polished those with my dremmel. I used some stainless steel compound first to get the grit off and then used some white rouge to get it high gloss finish. For the main body of the jack I used 600, 800, 1000, 2000 grit and wet sanded. After this I used 0000 steel wool dipped in mother’s aluminum polish. That polish works so great with steel wool and is easily workable and brings the shine right out.
The black parts and the blue foot were blasted and dropped off at the powder coasters. The black was Porsche specific and the blue was a little trickier to match. They ended up buying 3 different blues and we came up with this shade.
All in all it came out looking stellar. Those retaining rings were very difficult to work with and get seated while working around the finished powder coated pieces. |
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Well today was an interesting day, I cleaned out the garage and made more space for the bug and then Chris Vallone from Classic VW Bugs gave me a call and we did a zoom / video chat. He has been wanting to do a video with me on the new BBT front fenders and the rear Klassic Fab fenders. It should be out in a week or so you will be able to see the body lines and finish up close if your interested. I also ended the day with straightening all of the channels throughout the engine bay and front cowl that hood in all of the rubber seals. I also marked up the remainder of the bug for the paint shop and she is officially done on my end and just awaiting pickup from the painters. I’ll keep you all posted as I receive Body shots of her |
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Hahahaha there it is
It was pretty cool, Chris was a pretty cool guy to chat with on the video and off the video. Very informative and good info. I have used quite a few of his resources to help along the build process. And if I get hung up on something I’ll shoot him a text or email and he responds the same day. Overall fun experience
And everyone gets to see my stellar garage....lol..... I really need a workshop or 3 bay garage haha. It gets quite crowded |
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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This week I decided to tear into my original front beam. I’m going to restore this one the same way I did my narrowed beam earlier in this thread. I will paint it with the master series and refresh everything. Here is what I started with:
Original Boge shocks and trailing arms with the early shock retaining clips:
Early trailing arms with welded end torsions
Overall she has seen better days and was caked up. Over the last few days I got all that gunk off and here’s the update:
You can see the original bushings in the tubes. They appear in good shape; however, my trailing arms show some wear. Wonder if these bushings may have been replaced at sometime and that is old wear on the arms?
Finished stripped beam done with wire wheel on a grinder and wire bits on a drill:
Now I know they make poly bushings which I would like to avoid... I do not believe that needle bearing will fit the early beam as they are 46 mm bearings and the ID of the tube is 45mm (if I’m correct). I see WW sells these:
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111401315
But aren’t these just the inner bushing? Or can you use these for both inner and outer and then team them?
Or is it best to just try to clean and preserve the current original bushings and grease them well?
Opinions welcomed |
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66brm Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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With everything cleaned up slip the trailing arms into their places, grab the end of the arm and try moving it around, if there's movement you can feel then the bushes need addressing, otherwise grease them babies up and roll it _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
Aust. RHD 57 Type 1 Oval
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9955 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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66brm wrote: |
With everything cleaned up slip the trailing arms into their places, grab the end of the arm and try moving it around, if there's movement you can feel then the bushes need addressing, otherwise grease them babies up and roll it |
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Looks like no real wear. Was there any play in the links or kings? If not, paint and reassemble.
That’s a nice front beam! _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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I’ll go ahead and put the arms in the beams and give it a little wiggle test tomorrow. Should there be absolutely no wiggle or if there is very minimal wiggle, they still good?
Also the king and links seemed to be fine. I may just replace them while I have it all apart though, as I have another new set in the garage |
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66brm Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Remember that any more than a mm of movement in the arm will be amplified through the steering and affect the tracking of the car when driving so the less play the better _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
Aust. RHD 57 Type 1 Oval
modok wrote: |
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9955 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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You should feel no wiggle. I usually check for “play” with the components together. With it apart, you have to measure everything. _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
TDCTDI wrote: |
Basically, a whole bunch of fuckery to achieve a look. |
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Volksvr6gti Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2019 Posts: 298 Location: Jacksonville
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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VW_Jimbo wrote: |
You should feel no wiggle. I usually check for “play” with the components together. With it apart, you have to measure everything. |
Well I do suppose that makes sense. I should have tested before stripping it. Now that it’s all apart, how would I measure the inner bushing? I know measuring the trailing arms and outer bush will be cake. But the inner seems like a no go. Is there a special way to do this?
Also if I go the route of putting it all back together to check for movement, do I just need to put the torsion bars back in and the trailing arms and grub screws? Or do I need to reassemble everything including shocks, spindles, tie rods etc? |
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66brm Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Dougs 56 build |
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Just put the arms in the beam and push/pull, no need for the leaves etc _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
Aust. RHD 57 Type 1 Oval
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I am an expert at fitting things in holes, been doing it a long time |
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