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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: General Grabber review. 215/65/16 Reply with quote

In the last week I drove from Portland to Lake Tahoe, up to Bend OR and back to Portland. This is in my syncro with 4 adults, 2 kids and a lot of stuff. In Tahoe I got a flat tire, from a baseball sized rock that tore right threw the tread of my old tires. About a 4" gash. Those tires were a Toyo winter tire not rated for the van and came with my Merc wheels. I thought I was getting away with the lower weight rating until this.
The next day we were heading through Reno, which happens to be the main distribution center for Tirerack.com so I picked up a set of General Grabber AT 2's. Size 215/65/16. I almost went with the Yokohama Geolander ATS but the Grabbers looked so much cooler. I was afraid they might be loud though. It is amazing how quiet they really are. I dont think I took into account how loud my old tires were. I couldnt be happier with them. It did decrease power though. At sea level I think it's ok but up at 5k or 6k ft it really does slow you down.
The other snafu was not having a full sized spare when I got the flat. I use an origonal alloy with a 195\14 tire. So with the family having a picnic on the side of the road I got to pull out the front driveline. Not horrible but a pain in the ass when you have people with you.

Bottom line. I couldnt be happier with the tires. They handle good and are very quiet.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the review!

I've been looking at that same tire but in the 215/70/16 size to fit my tire rack 16" steelies.

I wanted to go with the BFG because I've had such good luck with my 14" ones but they are so much more expensive than the Grabbers!

Let us know how they do off road and in the snow!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: General Grabber review. 215/65/16 Reply with quote

That's for the review, Mark. Keep us updated.

Sounds like you're having a good summer aside from flats. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm racking up the miles this summer. Bob I cant remember if you have these tires or the BFG's. You seem to be happy with them though.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the 15" BFG's. Some day I'd like to try the Grabbers.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put some of these in the 215/70/16 size on my Syncro Camper today. I'll let know know how they work out.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have the 215/65/16 Grabbers and couldn't be happier. I would definitely buy this tire again.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect timing.

I couldn't decide between the BFG's or Grabbers for my 87 Syncro. I currently have the BFG's on my Ford Ranger and couldn't be happier. But those bad boys are pricey, $130.00 a tire at tire rack. The Grabbers on the other hand are a little cheaper $97.00 but also have a slightly lower load rating as well. But after reading this review I think my mind is made up and I'll try the Grabbers.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any chance you could toss up a pic of these puppies? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type2meister wrote:
any chance you could toss up a pic of these puppies? Laughing


Check Tire Rack.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same tire different size. I just bought a set of the Grabbers last week in the 27x8.50x14 size. Not many miles yet but so far I like 'em. Not any noisier than the Michelin Hydroedge I had on there and they feel plenty firm, even w/ the relatively tall sidewall.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did a huge amount of research before i bought my tyres for the syncro. grabber at2`s do everything a bfg does for a fair bit less. if you want mt`s that are on road freindly you cant beat khumo kl71`s although there not as friendly on road as the 255/65/16 grabbers i run every day.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type2meister wrote:
any chance you could toss up a pic of these puppies? Laughing


Tech Tip:

Go to Google.
Type most anything you want to see in the search box.
Click Images.

You will see LOTS of what you want.

Link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=general+grabber

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a set of 215/65/16 this summer and have about 5000 miles on them. Steering is very light now (no power on my van) they are extremely quiet for a rugged tread design. I can not speak to the snow driving properties but seem surefooted in the rain.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anybody experience rubbing / acceleration issues with 215/65/16 on a stock '86 2wd?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cbarney10 wrote:
anybody experience rubbing / acceleration issues with 215/65/16 on a stock '86 2wd?


imo the General Grabber AT2 in that size is NOT a good choice for a vanagon because it is Neither C rated, nor is it a Reinforced (XL) Passenger tire. It is just a plain Standard Load (SL) Passenger tire.

A better choice in terms of load rating is the new BFG AT Ko 215x65x16. You can look up the specs on Tirerack.com

I suggest you also read the tire thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=584507

hopefully you will get other replies.

what motor, what kind of van, and what tires do you currently have?

215x65x16 is a 27" diameter tire. 7% larger than stock. Yes you will experience acceleration issues. (edit per Mark below) with ET above stock 30 and width above stock 6.5", they will rub the UCA but not the fenders.

Why do you think you want that tire size? Are you hoping it will improve handling?

I suggest you study the links in my signature, then PM me with any questions.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 215/65R16 XL tires on 2 of my 2wd vans. They don't rub on bumps at all, whatever the steering angle. ET37, 7x16 , slight clearancing of the upper control arm edge needed due to occasional tire contact.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any time you increase the overall tire diameter you will suffer performance penalties. How significant the penalties are is subjective and may not matter to you. Compare your current size to the new size and see how it stacks up. For example:

185R14C is about 815 revs/mile

215/65R16 is about 770 revs/mile

45/815 = less than 6% gearing change

My 215/65R16 XL tires are on 2wd with stock 2.1 and stock trans. One is a Westy, one a hardtop. I can feel the slight performance hit but don't mind it.


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anybody experience ...acceleration issues with 215/65/16 on a stock '86 2wd?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ya'll

i'm headed over to Nokian WRCs just trying to decide between 205/65/15 and 205/70/15s

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: General Grabber review. 215/65/16 Reply with quote

A customer just bought these tires, so I decided to compare them with my BFG AT KO.

Almost the same!!


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