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Adriel Rowley
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:25 pm Post subject: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Think this should be separate also, not lost in Ruby's build thread (really need to update).
Seems getting the rear axel nuts off is a snap...
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I only have a 3/4 inch drive breaker bar, so need the adapter. I am then using a six foot piece of pipe and laying onto it, with my 185 pounds (which is deceptive as vary from 31 to 33 inch waist). Been many years since had to do science math, that is 1,100 foot pounds, so am I pushing the adapters too far?
Looked at the torque multiplier and only comes half inch drive. Not sure help, thus why here, as rather not waste $100 if no point.
Has anyone had this much trouble and if so, how does one get them off when this stuck?
Thank y'all in advance! 
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nreslifer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Adriel Rowley
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Dangermouse
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Doesn't matter what size drive you use as long as it terminates in an 11mm socket... Anyone tried 1/4" ? 
Then you undo those nuts with one hand while whistling a merry tune.
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Bryan67
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Get a 3/4" drive 36mm socket. And don`t use the adapter.
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cbeck
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Isn't the torque miester only available in 1/2 drive? Don't 1/2 ratchets grow on trees?
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Adriel Rowley
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74 Thing
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| You need a quality 3/4 to 1/2 inch adapter, or a quality 1/2" breaker bar, or a quality socket that you can use with your current 3/4" breaker bar, or get the Torquemeister. |
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Adriel Rowley
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Zundfolge1432 
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Ace hardware sells and warranties craftsman tools now. Torque multiplier is what you need. I use 3/8 drive ratchet and torque multiplier to install flywheels no problems. |
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Adriel Rowley
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
| Ace hardware sells and warranties craftsman tools now. Torque multiplier is what you need. I use 3/8 drive ratchet and torque multiplier to install flywheels no problems. |
According to the information for the multiplier, "24FT LBS = 216 LBS", meaning, must use my pipe on a breaker bar.
Good to know Chinese Craftsman is still available, appreciated.
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Dangermouse
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
| That is different than the others. Link? |
Common must-have VW tool; all the parts houses should have them. A worthy investment.
https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Flywheel-and-Brake-Drum-Torque-Tool-Kit-36mm-p/torque-tool.htm
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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Bryan67
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Get a 3/4" drive 36mm socket. And don`t use the adapter. |
Just wanted to confirm that would work, since need at least 1,200 foot pounds. |
1200 foot pounds? Where did you get that number from? More like 300
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| A final word of caution. Break these loose car on ground I’ve seen people knock a car off jack stands. Not saying you’d do this but someone reading this thread might. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
According to the information for the multiplier, "24FT LBS = 216 LBS", meaning, must use my pipe on a breaker bar.
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Huh? No. The torque multiplier is a 9x multiplier. The drive accepts an 11mm socket.
If you put 24 ft lbs of torque on the 11m socket you get 216 ft lbs. at the axle nut.
Axle nuts and gland nuts come free easy with an 11mm socket and a standard 3/8" drive ratchet - I have yet to need more leverage than that.
When reinstalling, put that 11mm socket on a torque wrench.
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Adriel Rowley
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Get a 3/4" drive 36mm socket. And don`t use the adapter. |
Just wanted to confirm that would work, since need at least 1,200 foot pounds. |
1200 foot pounds? Where did you get that number from? More like 300 |
Isn't torque force times distance? If not, then what is it?
If is force times distance, I applied at least 185 pounds at a distance of six feet, therefore, at least a half British ton. In other words, the nut does not budge at 1,100 foot pounds, needs more than that.
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Dad's 1964 Beetle purchased September 1968.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9252810#9252810
1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219811&highlight=squareback+rejuvenation |
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Adriel Rowley
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Getting the axel nuts off is a snap... Help! |
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| Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
| A final word of caution. Break these loose car on ground I’ve seen people knock a car off jack stands. Not saying you’d do this but someone reading this thread might. |
And proper jack stands. Since my Dad used scissor jacks only, thought safe until the Beetle fell of them. Good thing me or the pup wasn't under there!
Further, before going under a vehical, have an idea how to get out. I have hyper mobile joints and somehow wedged myself between the wall and under the vehical. I only got out because my previous Service Dog helped pull me out, otherwise would have been there at least a week if not more.
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1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
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