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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:39 pm    Post subject: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

I am missing this bracket, what is it called and does anyone have a part # for it?

I believe it’s number 34.

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The part circled in red.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

That was a bracket designed to take the weight of the heat exchangers and exhaust system off the head studs. It hangs the muffler (72-74) or the exhaust elbow (75-79) from the fan shroud M8 holes.

Stick an M8x1.25 stud in the fan shroud, and make your own bracket out of metal stock from the hardware store. It will cost single digit dollars but add life to the heads and exhaust system. Late setups are a simple bend or two, while earlier exhaust setups require a 90° twist as well as the bends. Use anti-sieze on all the threads, and enjoy keeping your exhaust studs happy while discouraging exhaust leaks.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

Originals are difficult to find, as they get rusty even though they are 3mm thick steel, removed and never put back on, damaged, etc.
If you make one, use thick material, as they provide much needed support for a heavy system, and my thinking is that thin material would flex too much or not provide sufficient support.
Part number is 021 256 303B.

asiab3 wrote:
Late setups are a simple bend or two, while earlier exhaust setups require a 90° twist as well as the bends.

I have not noticed this, and have put originals on the 72-4/79 style (see pic below), as well as the 75-78 style (like shown in the pic above) without modification or twisting. The bracket mounts at different locations, depending on the exhaust style and possibly the fan housing. Can you explain what you mean?


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72-74/79 exhaust style mounting location:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

hazetguy wrote:
Originals are difficult to find, as they get rusty even though they are 3mm thick steel, removed and never put back on, damaged, etc.
If you make one, use thick material, as they provide much needed support for a heavy system, and my thinking is that thin material would flex too much or not provide sufficient support.
Part number is 021 256 303B.

asiab3 wrote:
Late setups are a simple bend or two, while earlier exhaust setups require a 90° twist as well as the bends.

I have not noticed this, and have put originals on the 72-4/79 style (see pic below), as well as the 75-78 style (like shown in the pic above) without modification or twisting. The bracket mounts at different locations, depending on the exhaust style and possibly the fan housing. Can you explain what you mean?


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72-74/79 exhaust style mounting location:
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I have the same exhaust setup as in the original picture in my first post, will the bracket you pictured work for my setup?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

Its a pretty simple bracket, what you need to know to make one is the center to center distance for the holes. A tad short is likely better than a tad long.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

hazetguy wrote:
Originals are difficult to find, as they get rusty even though they are 3mm thick steel, removed and never put back on, damaged, etc.
If you make one, use thick material, as they provide much needed support for a heavy system, and my thinking is that thin material would flex too much or not provide sufficient support.
Part number is 021 256 303B.

asiab3 wrote:
Late setups are a simple bend or two, while earlier exhaust setups require a 90° twist as well as the bends.

I have not noticed this, and have put originals on the 72-4/79 style (see pic below), as well as the 75-78 style (like shown in the pic above) without modification or twisting. The bracket mounts at different locations, depending on the exhaust style and possibly the fan housing. Can you explain what you mean?


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72-74/79 exhaust style mounting location:
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Thanks for posting those pics, Hazetguy.
I'm wanting to make and install one soon.
Does anyone happen to know what the center-to-center measurement is for that bracket?

Also, is there a similar bracket installed on the right side of the engine?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

KentPS wrote:
Also, is there a similar bracket installed on the right side of the engine?

The alternator bracket serves two purposes on the RH side.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
KentPS wrote:
Also, is there a similar bracket installed on the right side of the engine?

The alternator bracket serves two purposes on the RH side.

Thanks once again, BD.
My alternator bracket is rusted off at the bottom connection.
So it must be time to source a replacement.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Bracket identification? Reply with quote

Shane - Try to use the whole fiche, not just a photo.

http://www.michaelknappmann.de/bulli/michaelk/vw_bus_d/fiche/bildtafl.htm#t200900

http://www.jerseylooker.com/FicheDump/LateBaywindow/LateBay-Main.html

part #19 on 24-10
021 256 303B

Ken Madsen at TheBusCo. Try him. http://www.thebusco.com/list.asp?Cat=L&Cat=E

Probably the breakdown is as follows:
021 256 303 A is 72-74 & 79
021 256 303 B is 75-78

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