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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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jitbba wrote: |
That turn signal spot is too big and too far back to be from a 62. I'd say 64-65 |
What the hell. Can you tell me how I can spot a 62 fender when I am shopping for one? |
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MANNAXMAN Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2009 Posts: 485 Location: Cali
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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buntist wrote: |
jitbba wrote: |
That turn signal spot is too big and too far back to be from a 62. I'd say 64-65 |
What the hell. Can you tell me how I can spot a 62 fender when I am shopping for one? |
Look at the pictures in post 1 and post 5 in this thread - Official 50s-60s Front Fender Thread. The turn signal on a 62 fender is going to be farther forward, and further from the body/hood. |
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buntist Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2019 Posts: 162
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:01 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Thank you,
Does anyone have measurements?
Specifically, something that I can use when I am trying to buy a fender in person, and don't know if the seller knows what year it is from.
Measurements of the hole diameter, measurements from the front inside corner?
Thanks! |
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jitbba Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2013 Posts: 164 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:06 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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buntist wrote: |
Thank you,
Does anyone have measurements?
Specifically, something that I can use when I am trying to buy a fender in person, and don't know if the seller knows what year it is from.
Measurements of the hole diameter, measurements from the front inside corner?
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I don't have measurements but if you place the palm of your hand at the top of the headlight bucket to the turn signal hole, your fingers will reach it _________________ My other ride is a Zildjian |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7023 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:51 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Here's a page from a 1960 tech bulletin showing how to install indicators on earlier cars that didn't have them. It seems like this should be the correct location for a late 50s/early 60s car.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/techbulletins/e12.php _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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buntist Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2019 Posts: 162
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Wow! Great find. Much appreciated |
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hm Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 191 Location: Whittier California
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Great project, its always nice to see another vert getting saved. Unfortunately though.. piecing this car together out of random loose parts is the absolute hardest way to go about this. There are a lot of part sellers on here and other places that just dont know or care about the specific years of the stuff they sell. Lots of beat up leftover junk or very high priced stuff.
Years 61 through 63 are the closest and correct years to get parts for your 62 convertible. The convertible can be the most difficult vw to restore and you will need every edge possible to be able to finish your car someday. I know because Ive restored many in the past 3 decades and I still own 3 today.
Your car is important to you and well worth the trouble but you have gotten bad info and terrible advise from the usual suspects around here in the forums. The best thing you can do at this point is to buy a "complete" un hit, un dented, un rusted original as possible 61 thru 63 sedan in good condition..remember your car is a convertible and its worth saving..forget the whiners!
The complete car is best because you can see the shut lines of the hood and decklid to make sure it all lines up, so it does on your car once transfered over. All body and fender gaps. How the fenders line up to the front and rear clips. That the bumper brackets hold the bumpers straight through the apron and rear fenders. This is the edge you need. You will get all the correct year parts in one shot. The hoods, fenders, bumpers, brackets, lights, handles..everything. Even the correct hardware to put it all together is priceless. You also get the measurements of where to cut the clips so there is no more guessing.
The donor cars are out there.. there is plenty of them. You may get lucky and find a cheap one, but its got to be complete.. Even spending $2500 or more for a donor is well worth it. All the nice correct german parts add up to big $$$$. In the end you will have many extra parts leftover you can sell and trade to get money back to buy the remaining odds and ends to complete your convertible. Whatever you do.. I wish you luck. Once finished the reward of driving the car, knowing its done right..is well worth the money and effort!
My 63 with an old friends 67
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:43 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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are you still looking for a front clip and fenders? i have a friend up north who lives near a acvw junkyard, and i just found a small junk yard by me. if i buy two i may be able to get em cheaper. they would have to be shipped of course. if my scrap yard doesnt allow cutting i know my friend can get a front clip or two if i ask nice enough let me know, i know i can get real nice OG fenders from my local shop. im calling on prices today if they arent closed by then. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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buntist Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2019 Posts: 162
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:49 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Chickensoup wrote: |
let me know, i know i can get real nice OG fenders from my local shop. im calling on prices today if they arent closed by then. |
Yes! I still need 2 correct looking front fenders! I just bought 2 that are actually later fenders. As for the clips, I picked up a good parts car. May need a good rear apron, but clips look good.
hm wrote: |
Years 61 through 63 are the closest and correct years to get parts for your 62 convertible. The convertible can be the most difficult vw to restore and you will need every edge possible to be able to finish your car someday. I know because Ive restored many in the past 3 decades and I still own 3 today.
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Thank you for stopping in, wish you were around to tell me to go pick up a complete 63 about a year ago! Shoot! |
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Chickensoup Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 5368 Location: Good Hope, GA
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:23 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Alright. Sounds good. I will see if he's got correct fenders for you car. I will send a PM soon. _________________ -'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" |
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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I picked up this front clip for fairly low cost. Guessing 66? I think I may use the small portion of it that I need for the vert. Not seeing large enough differences in the 62 and this one that make me think otherwise. And, it is much straighter, and has all of the fender bolt nuts in tact.
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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anthracitedub wrote: |
Yeah, it would have been nice if they would have saved the vin plate and kept it with the car.... likely got pitched along with the nice clips they removed🤨
It seems like I seen someone selling repro plates... but to me it sounds legally kinda sketchy.
Have you been able to find clips for it? I have a rear apron skin...it has no internal sheet metal as far as engine seal area it’s not perfect but it’s OG... I’d be willing to donate that to the cause.... 62s hold a special place for me. |
Is your rear apron skin still available? The parts car I got has a crunched rear apron, the clip is good, but I do not think I would be able to straighten the apron. |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Well, I dug the apron out of storage... I actually had this on my car about 15 years ago but I found a nicer one before I painted it. I did however harvest the inner panel out of it.... it needs some work to make usable again.
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:22 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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anthracitedub wrote: |
Well, I dug the apron out of storage... I actually had this on my car about 15 years ago but I found a nicer one before I painted it. I did however harvest the inner panel out of it.... it needs some work to make usable again.
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I am definitely interested. I am not in a rush for this, I still need to find a good straight hood and decklid before I start to cut and splice together the clips.
PM me to let me know how you want to handle pay and shipping. |
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:57 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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buntist wrote: |
I just finished setting up my double engine stand partial rotisserie.
It will allow me to work on the reinforcement rails more easily and should be more helpful to do body work.
I can get quite a bit more tilt on it, but need a second person to put the pin in it for it to stop rotating.
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Just incase anyone was going to look into doing this, I mounted the front stand at the two points that mount to the beam. I don't recommend this if youre going to be working on the front clip at all. I don't think anything got tweaked, but i noticed it having a bit of flex. |
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:51 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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I got the front clip stitched into place. need to work the apron a bit more before I install it. Still need to do quite a bit of grinding and touch up welding, but I think it is turning out pretty good.
Working on the rear clip panels and noticed that the vert fender nuts are inset like this,
The panels from my sedan donor car are not. Wondering if I should remove these fender nuts and weld in the inset ones?
Still looking for a good decklid and hood. |
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Adriel Rowley Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2006 Posts: 4748 Location: Mesa, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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buntist wrote: |
I got the front clip stitched into place. need to work the apron a bit more before I install it. Still need to do quite a bit of grinding and touch up welding, but I think it is turning out pretty good.
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You did better than Michele Jackson's plastic surgeon. I think it is better than pretty good.
What year is the donor? _________________ Please consider I am Autistic, so I process information differently and still working on social skills. Thanks.
Dad's 1964 Beetle purchased September 1968.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9252810#9252810
1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219811&highlight=squareback+rejuvenation |
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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The panels from my sedan donor car are not. Wondering if I should remove these fender nuts and weld in the inset ones? |
Nahh. The fender flange and the fender beading completely covers those weld nuts. Nobody will ever see the difference. |
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Rome wrote: |
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The panels from my sedan donor car are not. Wondering if I should remove these fender nuts and weld in the inset ones? |
Nahh. The fender flange and the fender beading completely covers those weld nuts. Nobody will ever see the difference. |
That is what I was thinking too. Thanks for the input. |
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buntist Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion |
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Adriel Rowley wrote: |
You did better than Michele Jackson's plastic surgeon. I think it is better than pretty good.
What year is the donor? |
Thanks!
The donor car is a '62 sedan only a couple months apart from my vert. |
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