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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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You did better than Michele Jackson's plastic surgeon. Razz I think it is better than pretty good.

What year is the donor?


Thanks!
The donor car is a '62 sedan only a couple months apart from my vert.


Must have been a factory change as IIRC the bodies were shipped to Karmann, rather than Karmann manufacturing the bodies. Which 1962 is newer?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

The nuts are a transition thing around that year range, they used the old style panel until production supply was gone. My 61 has the early style nuts on the passenger side and the later on the driver side from the factory.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

I just tried to setup a better "rotisserie".

I need to start working on replacing or patching the reinforcement rails fairly soon, and am actually think it may be best if I set the entire body upside down on a stand, supported adequately enough to where once I cut away the reinforcement rails, if I find out I need to do some repair to, or completely replace the heater channels, that the stand could be turned into a jig without having to move the body around much more.

Just trying to think ahead a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Got it upside down and supported pretty well.

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There are an insane amount of spot welds holding the reinforcement rails to the heater channels. Has anyone used an air chisel/seam ripper to remove these from the heater channel? Not wanting to drill out all of the spot welds.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Has anyone found reinforcement rails with a bulge in the front on the passenger side? This is where the wire harness runs.
WW just told me theirs doesn’t have one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

The reinforcement rails are thicker than the bottom plates on the heater channels, the thinner metal is more likely to tear. Use a die grinder to thin the spot welds, then use a spot weld separator to cut through the rest.


It’s highly likely that you’ll find that the bottom plate of the channel it rusted through too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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The reinforcement rails are thicker than the bottom plates on the heater channels, the thinner metal is more likely to tear. Use a die grinder to thin the spot welds, then use a spot weld separator to cut through the rest.


It’s highly likely that you’ll find that the bottom plate of the channel it rusted through too.


Thanks! I will do that. There are some pretty good lengths of reinforcement rail completely rusted out where I can see the bottom plate of the heater channel, and it looks to be okay! I will report back after I get the rails removed. 👍
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

I have been working on the bottom of the heater channels and the reinforcement rails.
It has been a bit of a hellish part of this resto.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

It’s been a while since I've posted and a while since I’ve done any work. I built a platform to roll the body around upside down while working on the reinforcement rails and bottom plate of heater channel on driver side.

Then I just got a hoist system set up from my trusses so that I can lift the pan and set it in place over and over as I work on fitting the reinforcement rails and the bottom panel for the driver side heater channel. Seems to be lining up well. Couple issues I’ve had is the amount t of grinding to get the original bottom plate of the heater channel separate from the rest. Next, getting the original screws to reach through the new rubber body to pan seals, through the new reinforcement rails and into the screw holes.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Nice work! Keep it up! Pan looks fantastic! Your paint seems to have layed on smooth unlike mine lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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Nice work! Keep it up! Pan looks fantastic! Your paint seems to have layed on smooth unlike mine lol.


Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

I have almost completed the reinforcement rail replacement.
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I ended up replacing the heater channel bottom on the passenger side but leaving the one on the driver side as it was in good shape. I painted with por15 all over!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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I have almost completed the reinforcement rail replacement.
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I ended up replacing the heater channel bottom on the passenger side but leaving the one on the driver side as it was in good shape. I painted with por15 all over!


Looking good!

Interesting, never seen a soft top body. So is the pan narrower to interface with the reinforcement rails?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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Interesting, never seen a soft top body. So is the pan narrower to interface with the reinforcement rails?

No same pan as sedan minus the jack point. I put a sedan pan under a vert body.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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Interesting, never seen a soft top body. So is the pan narrower to interface with the reinforcement rails?

No same pan as sedan minus the jack point. I put a sedan pan under a vert body.


Thats right, the vert replacement pans come without the jack point on them, as they are on the reinforcement rails, seen here

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Why is it so rare to get someone to respond to their classified ads on here?

I'm ready to get a decklid and rear apron. I have realized i am not likely going to find a vert lid so one that I can fab some louvers into.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

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Why is it so rare to get someone to respond to their classified ads on here?

I'm ready to get a decklid and rear apron. I have realized i am not likely going to find a vert lid so one that I can fab some louvers into.


IKR! No joke the last 4 different members with parts i wanted to buy, never even answered! What their problem is im not sure. They must not want to sell parts Question

I saw some vert decklids on FB, they're just pricy.

Heres another option,


https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1104959
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

You certainly could fabricate a replica convertible engine lid using a sedan lid, and the pair of vents from a '70 or '71 sedan. If you do this, be sure to measure the louver placement exactly for the '62 spacing. The tops of the vents on the '66 and earlier lids are in a straight line, whereby on the '68 and '69 'vert and '70/'71 sedan lids they are tilted slightly downwards. You can see this clearly on these:
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azamy66, '68:
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With this method, you'll still need to find and fit your water tray underneath but those should be easy to find. Ones from a later Beetle should "fit" into an earlier lid. I think it's more important to see the water tray in place instead of it being missing or of an incorrect year/era.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Chickensoup wrote:
buntist wrote:
Why is it so rare to get someone to respond to their classified ads on here?

I'm ready to get a decklid and rear apron. I have realized i am not likely going to find a vert lid so one that I can fab some louvers into.


IKR! No joke the last 4 different members with parts i wanted to buy, never even answered! What their problem is im not sure. They must not want to sell parts Question

I saw some vert decklids on FB, they're just pricy.

Heres another option,


https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1104959


There is a guy local to me that does really cool custom stuff too, but I want to try my hand at it.

Also, on the classifieds note, I did see some of the folks I was messaging had a phone number, so texting proved to work well.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1962 Beetle Convertible - Baja to Original Conversion Reply with quote

Rome wrote:
You certainly could fabricate a replica convertible engine lid using a sedan lid, and the pair of vents from a '70 or '71 sedan. If you do this, be sure to measure the louver placement exactly for the '62 spacing. The tops of the vents on the '66 and earlier lids are in a straight line, whereby on the '68 and '69 'vert and '70/'71 sedan lids they are tilted slightly downwards. You can see this clearly on these:
VOLKSWAGNUT gallery, '65:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

azamy66, '68:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

With this method, you'll still need to find and fit your water tray underneath but those should be easy to find. Ones from a later Beetle should "fit" into an earlier lid. I think it's more important to see the water tray in place instead of it being missing or of an incorrect year/era.


Good notes! Thank you much.
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