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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:01 am Post subject: 67 questions before purchase |
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Need some advice, please.....
Seems I hadn’t logged into the forum since 2007! I’ve been out of VW’s for over decade and lately I’ve had a strong desire to get a type 1.
Been to look at several in the past couple weeks and they were all way rougher than I’d like to start out with. Found what appears to be a pretty sweet ‘67 that’s a few hours away and I’ve been in touch with the owner, he’s been really responsive and willing to send extra pics and answer questions. However, he claims it has a 1500 in it, but I’m not sure about that. Looks like a 1600 dual port to me. I can see a rubber coupling on the intake from the one engine pic I have. Numbers under gen stand are not present.
Here’s the only engine pic I have for now......what is it?
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AirHead1966 Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2019 Posts: 568 Location: Triad Area NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:06 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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brando90gl wrote: |
he’s been really responsive and willing to send extra pics and answer questions. |
I would ask for better pictures. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12860 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:11 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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It's a dual port. Not likely a 1500. Past that, there's no telling what it is other than not original. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:19 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Yep good eye it is a dual port. Now what else is not stock?
Do go look at it drive it, that is the only way to know if you want it. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:44 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Thanks guys, I’m a little rusty in the VW scene and just wanted to make sure I wasn’t seeing things, since the owner claims it’s a 1500.
Any concerns over no numbers on case? I’ve read it could just mean a replacement block? Owner says it’s smooth where the numbers should be and doesn’t appear to have been ground off.
I requested more pics specifically of engine bay. He’s been super responsive, sent quite a few yesterday before the sun went down.
Front was crunched a bit at some point. Looks straight from the outside and hood closes fine. Appears to have been pulled back out?
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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The Uker of OZ Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2017 Posts: 10 Location: Port Washington
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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I thought some type 3 cases were stamped on top of the case...kinda behind / next to the gen. stand. (someone will surely correct if I'm mistaken). Probably nothing to worry about if you're already ok with it not being original to the car.
Looks pretty nice otherwise...
Depends what you're looking for. (up here in the rust belt that would be considered dang near mint!) |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12860 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:08 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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It looks like it has drop spindles & also appears to have some tire rub issues judging by the paint flaw on the driver side fender. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:12 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
It looks like it has drop spindles & also appears to have some tire rub issues judging by the paint flaw on the driver side fender. |
I noticed that too. How is the rub normally corrected with drop spindles? Smaller front tires or air shocks? _________________ 67 Type 1
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:15 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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The Uker of OZ wrote: |
I thought some type 3 cases were stamped on top of the case...kinda behind / next to the gen. stand. (someone will surely correct if I'm mistaken). Probably nothing to worry about if you're already ok with it not being original to the car.
Looks pretty nice otherwise...
Depends what you're looking for. (up here in the rust belt that would be considered dang near mint!) |
I had read type 3 blocks had the number elsewhere and it would be smooth below gen stand.
Im not worrying so much about not being original. I’m just looking for a solid starter project that doesn’t need a bunch of rust repair right off the bat. I agree, it appears to be solid. _________________ 67 Type 1
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12860 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:18 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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If the beam is adjustable, you could always raise it a bit. Or, you install original spindles or ask if the owner kept the original spindles.
If you like the stance, you could try to live with it or start going the route of a narrowed beam. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69829 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:21 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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brando90gl wrote: |
The Uker of OZ wrote: |
I thought some type 3 cases were stamped on top of the case...kinda behind / next to the gen. stand. (someone will surely correct if I'm mistaken). Probably nothing to worry about if you're already ok with it not being original to the car.
Looks pretty nice otherwise...
Depends what you're looking for. (up here in the rust belt that would be considered dang near mint!) |
I had read type 3 blocks had the number elsewhere and it would be smooth below gen stand.
Im not worrying so much about not being original. I’m just looking for a solid starter project that doesn’t need a bunch of rust repair right off the bat. I agree, it appears to be solid. |
This was my first though too - Possible Type 3 case that has been converted to an upright engine.
The Type 3 engine number is in the top center of the case near the case seam.
I agree it's probably a 1600 dual port too... best guess since that is the most common engine
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:34 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Thanks guys! I’m trying to round up the owner and head that way today. Taking a trailer since roadside drama isn’t my thing anymore. Hopefully it all works out. _________________ 67 Type 1
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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brando90gl wrote: |
since roadside drama isn’t my thing anymore. |
Ahh the wisdom that age brings. You mean you don’t want to hop into an unknown 50 year old car you just bought and drive it cross country? Wuss.
JK. Looks like a decent car. Enjoy. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12860 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:49 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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I will say that you should expect to go through everything thoroughly (brakes), the rust pitting on the friction surfaces of the crank pulley suggests that the car (Or at least the pulley.) has been sitting for quite some time. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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tatzbug Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2019 Posts: 76 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Just picked one of these up myself last month with a 1600 DP... for what it's worth I'm flying around in traffic with what feels like a super smooth engine... I love it. Of course never having driven it w an original 1500 I have nothing to compare with - but so far I'm verrrry pleased with performance.
Mine also came with a lowered front w drop spindles, had fresh VW stock shock put on 2 weeks ago, and now I'm rubbing all over the place on speedier turns. Going to revert to air shocks to see if that helps.
Excited for you being on the verge of pulling the trigger on something!!
These things are a blast!
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16758 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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I wouldnt stress about it being a 1600. Good luck. Hoping the car is as nice as you hope. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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brando90gl Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Marion,NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Appreciate the advice and encouragement, very much so. I’ll respond with wise cracks tomorrow.
7 hour round trip. Wayyyyy better than I’d even hoped. Super solid car. I’m stoked.
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robert hogaboam Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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Car looks good. Post some trailer pics when you get it.
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Sqrbckguy38 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2004 Posts: 415 Location: Tooele, ut
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:22 am Post subject: Re: 67 questions before purchase |
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My 67 has a 1600, it's nothing to worry about. Your car looks great! I hope you enjoy it. _________________ It's not the fall that hurts, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.
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