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liquidrush Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2018 Posts: 588 Location: MO
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:43 pm Post subject: Camshaft prelube |
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We used to use GM EOS in V8's for cam break in, is there anything specific for the VW engines you recommend? Is the procedure the same? We used to run em up between about 1800 and 3000 for 20 or so minutes while varying the rpms between those ranges and changing the oil and filter after the first run. Also, on the CB performance oil pump that has the spin on oil filter cover, is that a PH8A type filter that it takes? I was gonna buy a couple for engine run in. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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The cams I have uses all came with its own little "pot" of lube with no name or numbers so can't recommend lube ...
Probably 2000 RPM for 20 minutes is what others are going to say....
Oil pump cover should take anything that is 3/4 X 16 threads....
Prefer WIX or NAPA brand filter over Fram... But then everyone has own opinion of what is best filter...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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Howard 111 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2005 Posts: 1827 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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Hold the PH8A in one hand, and anyone else's in the other, and the difference is amazing. I wouldn't use any Fram filter on any car these days. They use to be THE filter, but I think China bought them out. _________________ 1973 Karmann Ghia
Turbocharged, Fuel Injected
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=531270 |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3818 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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CB will send you a Mahle 83a.
I did the same thing and ordered four oil filters and sump gaskets to go through all the break in maintenance.
There are many assembly lube products.
I’ve never been let down with the Permatex brand of anything. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9767 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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http://www.cam-shield.com/acatalog/CamShaft_Assembly_Paste.html
Works for me! _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2529 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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cam break in is cam break in....usual techniques apply...whatever break in lube you decided to use should have been applied to the cam and lifters at the time of assembly...if you didnt use anything at all some EOS and high zddp oil would be a lot better than nothing |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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I use CamShield on the lobes and lifter faces. For oil I use Lucas Hot Rod & Classics with the proper amount of zinc already in it. I used to use EOS but now I just get oil with zinc
brad |
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jason Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2002 Posts: 3444 Location: Garage
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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Never understood the cam lube. It wipes off after like two revolutions. |
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Dan Ruddock Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2012 Posts: 3594 Location: Sarasota, in my adopted state of Florida
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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jason wrote: |
Never understood the cam lube. It wipes off after like two revolutions. |
Me too, this is why I like to overfill the case with enough oil to bathe the cam.
Dan |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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There's still a film of lube even after a few revolutions and that's all it takes. Better a film of lube than metal on metal.
brad |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9471 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft prelube |
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I use the Permatex assembly lube -red color...for cam /lifter face lube, valve stems and tips. All else gets the 30W oil for assembly. Worked for me for years. |
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