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dabaron
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 Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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there has been an amount of water leaking into the Westy. it has been pooling at the base of the seam between the two side windows on the driver's side.
after some reviewing the location and the exterior, i believe the culprit is cracked seam sealer. i ordered the 3M clear 5oz squeeze tube - $28.00 for 5oz, this better work!
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dabaron
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| djkeev wrote: |
I used 3M 08405 it was a good product.
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i went with the 3M 08302 since the 08405 comes in a caulk tube and what i don't use will be wasted.
this is a stop gap measure against the leaking. the rust remediation will have to wait a few seasons... spreading the projects out so i have some things to tackle in the next pandemic.
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HackAl
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| dabaron wrote: |
the rear hatch card is rather broken. i know, let's fix it with duct tape! the card is past it and i'll order a replacement at some future point.
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I just installed a vangaroo. If the front of that hatch card is as bad as the back, I am willing to donate mine to the cause. Let me know.
Love seeing you make progress. I am in awe, really.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:33 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| HackAl wrote: |
I just installed a vangaroo. If the front of that hatch card is as bad as the back, I am willing to donate mine to the cause. Let me know.
Love seeing you make progress. I am in awe, really. |
thank you. this is "rewarding" and i could not do this without the experiences and expertise shared in this forum.
i will accept that donation and in the near future when we can tip back a beer and talk about our love of all things Vanagon i'll pick it up.
last year we went to Washington State for vacation and i came back with a Vanagon cover i picked up from 2dog1van in the Karma section. i'll deploy that to keep the water from getting in since it's going to rain almost every day until i get the seam sealer delivered.
it's amazing how little money i've spent so far, mostly on paint, cleaning products with the high dollar items being the skylight kit, hookup kit, and a bench grinder. the bulk of this has been cleaning and refreshing. the real fun is still to come... the heater box, the brakes, and the engine.
i have held off on some larger purchases but as this pandemic winds down the orders will be placed. i really want to take the Westy on a road trip this fall to New England.
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HackAl
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| HackAl wrote: |
i really want to take the Westy on a road trip this fall to New England. |
We have a house on the Long Island Sound in CT. We can meet up when she's roadworthy.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:17 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| dabaron wrote: |
it's amazing out, so Vanagon work time
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the rear hatch card is rather broken. i know, let's fix it with duct tape! the card is past it and i'll order a replacement at some future point.
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Or you could try popsicle sticks and wood glue with a cover of grey duct tape like I just did. Worked fine:
See page 12 of my Makeover thread.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:51 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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Another quick repair is using a Hot Glue Gun, pushing the hot thin glue into cracks with a putty knife before it hardens up.
Add really thin sheet metal pieces ( think galvanized ductwork metal thin), as a bridge over weak areas like the other poster did with the popsicle sticks
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dabaron
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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unfortunately, the panel vinyl is ripped and it looks like mice were living in it
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dabaron
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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since the Westy project is occupying the space that was to be my raised garden beds... side project time - PARKING PAD!
6 tons of 2A Modified. not quite finished, but real close. the plan is to park the two Vanagons side by side, facing the stockade fence. i have to build up the ground between the pad and the fence and along the other short side. i plan to plant flowers and hostas. it should look nice when it's all done.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:43 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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cracks and missing bits in the seam are allowing water in...
my failed attempt to keep the application of clear seam sealer neat
while not pretty, it has sealed up the cracks and has stopped the drips
the rear door would not close, the T trim needed stretched. worked well.
this is clean. it got cleaner, but man this was gross.
i installed the headbanger. i applied the vinyl spray to the vent board, came out nice.
i put a strip of flooring material in the tray area since it was a sticky glue mess that was not coming out.
curtains in place. the track over the kitchen fell out a few hours after installing the curtains. i need a dozen sliders and will need toothpicks and screws to get it properly installed.
my new favorite pasttime, gently removing glue from almost everything.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:56 am Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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Best deceptively dangerous tool ever
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dabaron
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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Best deceptively dangerous tool ever |
yeah, super sharp, no pressure applied and the adhesive was peeling off... i made sure to put down cardboard in case i dropped the chisel. it cleaned up very well. this Westy will look nice, eventually.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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nearly finished with the parking pad...
added blocks to support the end until i can get some fill dirt with my son and his monster pickup truck.
tried to start the Westy yesterday, cranked but never started. the ground wire from the ECU harness had come out of the crimp. started right up after that 2 minute fix.
oh man, i have my garden plot back!
almost as if it was planned that way...
i have my own camping site in the woods! now i just need my mat, some chairs, some lights, and friends to hang out with
i f'in love Vanagons.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| GreggK wrote: |
| That's a great spot you made there. Progress is looking good! Thumbs up. |
thank you. it was purposefully laid out so i can park two side by side. if i move one i have ample room to wrench.
like butter.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy purchase |
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You would be short sighted to not make it work.
I've got the tools and the know how to make it happen!
Besides, the A/C rebuild thread focuses on the 86 and older style. We can make a new one for the 87 -91 design.
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i haven't forgotten this offer.
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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You might want to get a few dozen pieces of rebar about 2' long and drive them into the ground in those cinderblock holes (on the inside edge) to help immobilize the block against movement from pressure of the vehicles' weight on the gravel behind them. Just a thought. You might be surprised how that stuff can shift.
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dabaron
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: The mania deepens: 1991 Full Westy rescue |
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| campism wrote: |
| You might want to get a few dozen pieces of rebar about 2' long and drive them into the ground in those cinderblock holes (on the inside edge) to help immobilize the block against movement from pressure of the vehicles' weight on the gravel behind them. Just a thought. You might be surprised how that stuff can shift. |
that's on the list for the next trip to the big box hardware store, i had 6 on hand but need 10 more.. i also need an owl.
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