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remraf Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:07 pm Post subject: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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https://www.gowesty.com/product/brakes/25264/rear_disc_kit-vanagon?v=
Saw this in the latest release section. Haven't been to their site in a while was wondering if anyone had experience with it (search yielded nothing). Also whether rear discs are a worthwhile upgrade over drums in general. I get that beefier discs up front seem to have a consensus. I have some gobucks from shipping old cores to them been looking to cash in.
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9603 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs-experiences? |
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That's real interesting.
How long has that kit been available, I've never heard of it.
$699
bolt on
no machining
stainless steel brake lines
parking brake cables included (in one of the pics?)
and they claim the parking brake is 30% better than drum brakes _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1840 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Silverghost500 Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2018 Posts: 1086 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:29 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs-experiences? |
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This looks to be a good kit, and without having to perform extra machining that's a good deal. Quite a bit of a price difference between this and what else is on the market currently. Yet another modification dooming the OEM 14" wheels, so might as well budget for 15" or 16" wheels.
It seems the rotors and pads are proprietary to GoWesty. What happens if you're on the road and need spares? Gotta wait for GoWesty to ship them wherever you are in the world? What happens 5-20+ years down the road? Will spares still be available, or will we have to cobble together a hybrid system with other parts? _________________ 1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia "Von Westy"
Honda K24A converversion-Road Testing Phase
3-Speed Automatic
Von Westy YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhyZYxJEQrUuLnMbLleeIA |
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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GoWesty: https://www.gowesty.com/product/brakes/25264/rear_disc_kit-vanagon?v=
Caliper assembly: The caliper, bracket, and pad assembly we designed the system around is an exact copy of the rear caliper assembly Volkswagen used on the 2001-03 Eurovan. We chose this caliper because it was designed for a vehicle of similar size and weight, so we knew it was up to the task in all regards, not the least of which is a parking brake that actually works!
Rotor: The rotor is designed specifically to fit a Vanagon without modification to the hub. This is a key component in many ways, but especially because it does not require any modification to the hub—unlike other kits that repurpose a rotor from another vehicle that requires machined hubs to fit. Additionally, we specified a friction surface identical to the 2001-03 Eurovan, so we know it works perfectly with that caliper.
Longer studs are advisable.
Another Great rear brake kit.
https://burleymotorsports.net/product/rear-disc-brake-kit-new-generation/ _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
Subaru EJ25 Forged Frankenmotor, Triple Knob.
Jael = (Mountain Goat) |
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remraf Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Thanks for the heads up about the rear disc FAQ. I meant this specific kit yielded no search results. Guess it's newer than I realized. From reading the FAQ sounds like rears are a noticeable improvement after doing fronts. My wife really wants to drive the van all of a sudden and she has a tendency to follow close (and I want her to be safe- ).
Don't like the idea of a proprietary kit but after reading about GW's front kit here seems like they claim that despite using parts from other cars. Not sure why they do that as it seems more likely to limit sales. Anyway, just added to the possible go bucks cash in list. |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1489 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Pads,calipers and rebuild parts would be 01-03 Eurovan I would think. Not sure what they've done with the rotor to make it fit the unmachined hub. The return spring is new (to me). Note how they have the balance bar even between the two sides, not cocked to one side. |
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maco70 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 456 Location: Montréal, Québec
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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I think it is a great improvement for those who are already going for 15 or 16 inches wheels.
One bad side with this product. It is quite well known that calipers are much better installed when they are on the front side of the wheels, instead the rear side, where they are getting much more dust. _________________ Martin from Montréal
1986 Vanagon GL full camper westfalia
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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On the topic of the proprietary disks, I'd venture to say that as little wear as rear brakes get in general (compared to front) the rear disks of decent materials should last at least 100,000 miles. So, depending on your driving habits it may be many years into the future before facing a replacement.
Jim _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1489 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:10 am Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Very little dust with ceramic pads. |
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mackaymanx Samba Member
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baltik Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Rear discs are next on the list for me. Since I have a syncro, I don't believe i need to machine the hubs. The one thing that's giving me pause is that I really want a vented rotor, seems that heat dissipation would be one of the primary benefits of installing discs on a back of a heavy vehicle.. |
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kiltedhiker Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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On my Syncro, I have Burley big brake kit on front and Burley rear disc kit. Both have slotted and vented discs. The rear did need some machining. The brakes work great and I am very happy with the upgrade. |
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kiltedhiker Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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On my Syncro, I have Burley big brake kit on front and Burley rear disc kit. Both have slotted and vented discs. The rear did need some machining. The brakes work great and I am very happy with the upgrade. |
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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I'd like to know how the parking brake holds after everything's all bedded in.
Like after a year or so.
If someone would hurry up and get that kit on the van..... _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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baltik wrote: |
Rear discs are next on the list for me. Since I have a syncro, I don't believe i need to machine the hubs. The one thing that's giving me pause is that I really want a vented rotor, seems that heat dissipation would be one of the primary benefits of installing discs on a back of a heavy vehicle.. |
I looked for vented rotors for the rear. I never found any.
My Burley Kit offered slotted drilled rotors. I went with those.
I have not noticed any heat build up out of the ordinary.
The parking brakes are superb!
https://burleymotorsports.net/product/rear-disc-brake-kit-new-generation/
_________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
Subaru EJ25 Forged Frankenmotor, Triple Knob.
Jael = (Mountain Goat) |
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mackaymanx Samba Member
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Sodo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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mackaymanx wrote: |
The hand brake is good on these caliper as they come from a similar weight van not like those sourced from cars. |
....and barely able to hold the passenger car they came on.
A member up here in the PNW franklinstower “has a set”
...... of eurovan rear disc brakes on his vanagom. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Sodo wrote: |
mackaymanx wrote: |
The hand brake is good on these caliper as they come from a similar weight van not like those sourced from cars. |
....and barely able to hold the passenger car they came on.
A member up here in the PNW franklinstower “has a set”
...... of eurovan rear disc brakes on his vanagom. |
Sodo,
These rear disc brakes hold better than I could ever possibly get the stock drums to.
I’m not sure why others are having issues?
Mine are the Burley brakes. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
Subaru EJ25 Forged Frankenmotor, Triple Knob.
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elizer Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: GoWesty rear discs -- experiences? |
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Burley rear discs here too. E brake holds perfectly. |
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