Chinese MSD Distributor Tips & Tricks + Budget ignition Demo

Witnin01340

Sorry,The real question is which wires goes where from the cdi to FAST E92 coil then to the to the distributor ? i can cut the wires and add the ends it needs as far as that but i dont have any instructions what wires goes where. the cdi is a crane HI6N,the coil a FAST E92,and the distributor is a msd clone from the A-Team. This is a first for me going cdi and im lost without any instructions about the wiring. Thanks

jpaull

For the Hi6N:

Heavy Red = Battery Positive
Heavy Black = Ground

Lite duty Orange = Coil positive
Lite duty Black = Coil negative

In the shielded grey cable inside has the small gauge trigger wires that go to the distributor and is the mag pickup signal wires. These small red and black wires connect to the distributor (Mag pickup only, no points or points replacement) and on some of these its hard to know which wire goes where, as some are both black coming out. connect it one way and it runs like crap and barely starts. Connect it correctly and it runs awesome.

Tach = White wire. These are meant for V8 only, so it will only work with a tach that has 4,6,8 cylinder selection .

dunk · Samba Member Joined: April 02, 2006 Posts: 161

Witnin01340

Ok,yes the wire connector you show looks like it will plug into the FAST E92 coil but after plugging into coil does them wires go to cdi or distributor or both ? Also the 6 wires that come out of the cdi that has the 6 pin male connector i dont care to cut off or splice that connector, so do you know if they sell a 6 pin female connector to plug into the 6 pin male ? so i can add any connector it needs coming off the female side .

Lastly,if ANY of the wires coming off the cdi is lengthened will it cause any loss of energy ? bcause the crane LX92 coil, the cdi plugs directly into coil . Or do ya think it may be a better option to get a used oem crane LX92 coil so wouldnt have to maybe cut or splice the wires on cdi ? I can wire anything as long as i know which wire goes where lol; so thanks much for explaining that and everything else jpaull.

dunk · Samba Member Joined: April 02, 2006 Posts: 161

Witnin01340

Ok,Thanks much to all, Btw jpaull this is one of the best post,NICE .

jpaull

Dunk, thanks for the great info! That happens alot and very annoying when a seller lists a old picture that does not apply anymore.

jpaull

Witnin01340

Jpaull,no not yet im just getting everything ready to test to make sure everything works before installing and here in PA now its cold with some snow so it be awhile, but il post back when i do switch from a oem points setup to cdi let ya know, Thanks.

Witnin01340

Where can one find spark plug wires to fit this type distributor (msd clone) with the H.E.I.ends,with the low resistance 40-50ohms per ft spiral wound ?

Everywhere i look there out of stock.

Thanks.

67rustavenger

KEGZ

Jeff, I just saw some of your videos. I hope you don't have an HOA Shocked

bw65vw

I have been reading through this thread and have gathered up some parts. A Crane Hi6N box, Crane LX92 coil, MSD copy dizzy and Taylor Thunder bolt 8.2 wires. I can't seem to find anywhere in this thread about what plugs would work well with this combo?

67rustavenger

jimmyhoffa

Dam you guys. I'm stuck at home with the 'rona virus and going stir crazy so I impulse bought this stuff. Right now I'm at $380 but I need RPM limiter chips for the 6ALN and a distributor cap so I'll be past $400 for the whole setup. I also have MSD wires that came with the Dizzy and CB's wires if I want.

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What struck me most was how well the MSD distributor is made and how well the coil is made and what a steaming pile of garbage the 6ALN is in comparison from a fit-and-finish standpoint.
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jpaull

Witnin01340:
Great question. The Magnaspark wires which are Taylor Thundervolt were my first choice, but now CB only sells the "high resistance" new magnaspark wires that are not gonna help spark.
Pertronix would be a last resort that is better then some. MSD is still the best but not everyone likes screaming red wires.

Kegs:
No HOA thankfully, and i live next to a super busy street that covers alot of my shenanigans. I will test the neighbors patience again this weekend with some more dyno runs.

BW65VW:
For plug wires, copper core non resister. I like the multi-ground strap plugs but they are not always easy to find and usually 14mm only.

Jimmy Hoffa: Thats a nice USA made combination of parts that although used, should work and live for a really long time. Check the gap and strength of that pickup in the distributor. If it feels weak at all, i would spend $35 on a new MSD pickup. That coil is great combo for the 6 series box.
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Transmission by MCMScott:
Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth.

Witnin01340

Thanks for replys guys.

I called cb talked with a guy he said taylor thundervolt wires went out of business.

I was thinking the clone msd took H.E.I.ends but they dont or at least mine dont,it takes standard ends.

About the msd clone,just got mine from the A Team for $89.99 it has the floating drive etc and is made VERY WELL !

I never had a real msd but id like to put this clone beside a real msd and see where the $300.00 difference is.

Alstrup

jpaull

Alstrup, are the grey ones a MSD Universal set? If not, it would be super helpful to get a part number for those.

Specifically for the MSD 8485/HEI VW I can only find that MSD makes the red 31939 set:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284464790993?epid=1311821357&hash=item423b6c3dd1:g:WWIAAOSwnothTupt

I see some of the universal sets like below, and a person would just have to add their own air deflectors. But it is nice as it has HEI or standard vw styel distributor terminal ends.
31153
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294643684397?epid=1527588684&hash=item449a21d42d:g:e9gAAOSwxDlhvLO5
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[email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg

Transmission by MCMScott:
Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth.


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