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Trylon
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 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:26 am Post subject: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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So, I am a bit torn between three colors for the roof of our car.
I could simply leave it red. No cost option, giving us a canonical red sports car.
It could be black. Giving the illusion of the original cover girl Karmann as seen on American motor magazines when it first arrived.
Or white. Matching the new whitewall tires it is getting and giving the illusion of a Karmann Ghia rarity.
I vacillate; what do you think?
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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Black sucks. It shows every flaw, it always shows dirt & dust, & it raises the interior temps.
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iowegian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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Paint the roof green.
It will match your Vermont license plates. |
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Marcdeb
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| iowegian wrote: |
Paint the roof green.
It will match your Vermont license plates. |
Red with a green roof wrapped in Christmas lights!  ?? And your all set for Holiday Parades.
Seriously, the black roof on a red coupe is very classy and helps to show off the beautiful lines of a Ghia coupe.
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iowegian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| Marcdeb wrote: |
| iowegian wrote: |
Paint the roof green.
It will match your Vermont license plates. |
Red with a green roof wrapped in Christmas lights! ?? And your all set for Holiday Parades.
Seriously, the black roof on a red coupe is very classy and helps to show off the beautiful lines of a Ghia coupe. |
Besides----it makes a lowly coupe look more like a cabriolet. |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| iowegian wrote: |
Paint the roof green.
It will match your Vermont license plates. |
Hey, stick with the program!
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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How about just drive the thing for a season and enjoy it after all the work you have done.......Drive it like ya stole it!!
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Vladiiiii
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
It could be black. Giving the illusion of the original cover girl Karmann as seen on American motor magazines when it first arrived.
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This, for exactly that reason  But, if I were you, I'd hold on to the plan for a bit. Maybe have it wrapped by a pro (without taking anything out). But leaving a wrap on for too long affects the paint underneath and may pull it upon removal  A good quality paint means taking the windows out. Then if the headliner has some issues, you may be temped to fix that, "while you're in there", and so on..... On the other hand, if the new interior turns out that good, painting the roof black can only help the vintage look 
But to be honest, even if you are excited and all, maybe leave it as it is for now, and finish the mechanicals, and drive the car. What if it's terrible to drive and you don't like it  ? Drive drive drive!
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| Vladiiiii wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
It could be black. Giving the illusion of the original cover girl Karmann as seen on American motor magazines when it first arrived.
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This, for exactly that reason But, if I were you, I'd hold on to the plan for a bit. Maybe have it wrapped by a pro (without taking anything out). But leaving a wrap on for too long affects the paint underneath and may pull it upon removal A good quality paint means taking the windows out. Then if the headliner has some issues, you may be temped to fix that, "while you're in there", and so on..... On the other hand, if the new interior turns out that good, painting the roof black can only help the vintage look
But to be honest, even if you are excited and all, maybe leave it as it is for now, and finish the mechanicals, and drive the car. What if it's terrible to drive and you don't like it ? Drive drive drive! |
Yes, getting it on the road is my priority.
Absolutely no worries about restoration creep— I will simply run out of funds.
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jeffrey8164
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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I might go white but I’d have to make the wheels match as well
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| jeffrey8164 wrote: |
| I might go white but I’d have to make the wheels match as well |
Interesting. Did white roofed cars get a different wheel color as well? Somehow I think not. I understand aesthetically it would be nice but does it further the illusion of actually being from 1959?
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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Perhaps a racing Stripe?
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Black sucks. It shows every flaw, it always shows dirt & dust, & it raises the interior temps. |
These are all practical concerns Chris— so your vote would be “stick with the TTS”?
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| kingkarmann wrote: |
Perhaps a racing Stripe?
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You lose.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
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| Black sucks. It shows every flaw, it always shows dirt & dust, & it raises the interior temps. |
These are all practical concerns Chris— so your vote would be “stick with the TTS”? |
I think I suggested that from the beginning. Having given up ALL modern comforts, I thoroughly enjoy driving my beast, well, anywhere & everywhere.
Maybe black wouldn't be so bad in the summer in Connecticut, but it would be horrible down here.
I had a buddy who had a black late '80s GTI who was so proud when he made some polished aluminum diamond plate interior & floor panels, I laughed my ass of & told him that he just made a mobile, human sized solar oven, he shrugged it off & told me what I could do with myself. Two weeks later, the temps hit 102 & he had to go to the hospital with heat stroke because he got caught in stopped traffic for two hours.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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Too many lowlights with that combination, it's like early deluxe busses. I like the all red.
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iowegian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
| Did white roofed cars get a different wheel color as well? Somehow I think not. I understand aesthetically it would be nice but does it further the illusion of actually being from 1959? |
If you are going for the "Retro" look, paint the car pink with a charcoal roof and pretend it's a '55 Chebby. |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Red, White or Black? A Burning Question from Karmann Ghia Fever |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
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| Black sucks. It shows every flaw, it always shows dirt & dust, & it raises the interior temps. |
These are all practical concerns Chris— so your vote would be “stick with the TTS”? |
I think I suggested that from the beginning. Having given up ALL modern comforts, I thoroughly enjoy driving my beast, well, anywhere & everywhere.
Maybe black wouldn't be so bad in the summer in Connecticut, but it would be horrible down here.
I had a buddy who had a black late '80s GTI who was so proud when he made some polished aluminum diamond plate interior & floor panels, I laughed my ass of & told him that he just made a mobile, human sized solar oven, he shrugged it off & told me what I could do with myself. Two weeks later, the temps hit 102 & he had to go to the hospital with heat stroke because he got caught in stopped traffic for two hours. |
Well, we do get our share of hot/humid weather, but when we do we just switch on the air cond... OMG!
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