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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:28 am Post subject: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Hi Folks,
A couple of months back my buddy Dave (SoonerDave on Samba, now a Transit Sportsmobile owner) suggested we put a trip together to Sedona to do some mountain biking. We didn't know if we'd get the weather we needed, but it was good motivation to hurry up and get the Syncro ready for the road.
Thursday night, I left Denver and headed for Escalante Canyon. Unable to find where Dave had camped, I drove through the dark for awhile until I found an empty little campground. I don't like being lost at night, but I love waking up in the morning to see where I actually ended up--in this case on the edge of a cliff in a beautiful canyon.
It was 23 degrees overnight, and my recently-installed Chinese diesel heater refused to fire (after weeks of successful bench testing!)
We made our way north to Grand Junction for a quick ride. It was here that I learned the hard way that I am currently in NO condition to ride a mountain bike on a legitimate trail. Painful.
Heading back to the highway, I saw this sweet Syncro and had to stop for a pic.
Somewhere near Gateway, CO. Sunshine, scenery, 68 MPH @ 3600 RPM. Can't ask for much more than that.
Highway 141, Dolores River canyon.
We took 141 south through Paradox Valley and crossed into Utah by La Sal, bypassing Moab (we've been there plenty of times and have a trip planned soon.)
After first reading about the Moki Dugway nine years ago in this thread,
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=455924&highlight=moki++dugway
I finally got a chance to drive it.
It's not as all-out harrowing as Shaeffer Switchbacks or Mineral Bottom in Moab, but the views...My lord the views. You can see Ute Mountain in Colorado and Ship Rock in New Mexico from there. Unbelievable.
At the bottom of the Dugway is Canyon of the Gods. We pulled in on a dirt road looking for a place to camp, and we were not disappointed. There was not another soul for miles.
So otherworldy, in fact, that I forgot to see what was up with my furnace. It was 27 degrees that night, warmer than Escalante, but still a bit chilly! Thank goodness for thermal tights and extra blankets.
More to come. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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dobryan Samba Member
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Nice!
I was just down in the 4-Corners area a couple weeks ago.
Loved every dirty washboard mile!!
It's a long clip but what a great adventure. Here is my trip report.
See you at the Solstice joetiger.
Link
_________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
Subaru EJ25 Forged Frankenmotor, Triple Knob.
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 1488 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Awesome trip report, and great pix!
Have road tripped there 3 times and still haven't even begun to see it all ...
joetiger wrote: |
It was here that I learned the hard way that I am currently in NO condition to ride a mountain bike on a legitimate trail. Painful. |
As a flatlander from Wisconsin, I usually use the altitude as an excuse for my poor riding/hiking performance. But you being from Denver and all ... |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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*I just noticed that the map is incorrect--650 Road to Moki Dugway should be down Colorado 141, not I-70. We tried to avoid interstates as much as possible on this trip.
The next morning I awoke chilly but so, so happy to be on the road. The sun was blazing from the east so I opened up my windshield shades and quickly warmed up the interior. I'm happy to say that my new little sink cabinet was very much up to the task of providing running water, food storage, and a stable spot to make coffee.
What a fun dirt road to drive in a Vanagon, with lots of ups and downs and a few washouts.
Soapbox Moment: It's worth noting that until 2017, The Valley of the Gods was a part of the protected Bears Ears National Monument. The asshole in the White House changed all that, and now this area no longer has Monument designation and is conceivably open for mineral extraction.
We stopped in Mexican Hat (why not just name it Sombrero?) for gas then headed south into Monument Valley.
It's hard to put this place into words or even pictures if you've never been there. It's been featured in movies and ads for years and years so it might seem overdone or cliched to some. But on a sun-splashed morning with a tailwind and not another car in sight and nowhere in particular to be other than right there...The feeling is beyond description. And the feeling wouldn't be the same in any other vehicle.
...But then reality comes rushing back and the Universe reminds you who's in charge. About an hour south of Monument Valley, I began to lose power and hesitate on a long incline approaching the mountains before Flagstaff.
Dave provided entertainment (Rush-2112 as I recall) while I checked the motor.
Thankfully, part of my admittedly cobbled-together intake tube system had come loose. Nothing a gang of duct tape and zip-ties couldn't temporarily repair! It was an easy fix and we were back on the road in a few minutes.
We made our way to Flagstaff and saw a couple of Vanagons at a shop in town. We took Highway 89A instead of the interstate from Flagstaff south; what a great road! It twists and turns through a canyon going up then down the butte into Sedona.
I didn't like Sedona. It might have been a magical place at some point, but when you monetize something to death in order to attract convertible BMW's from the nearest metropolis, you've lost me. It was like a desert Breckenridge.
However, south of town on National Forest land (Canyon Rim, AZ) we rendezvous'd with dear old Vanagon pals Pam and Jeremy, now full-timing it in a Transit. Another couple joined us in their Transit as well and for the first time ever, I was the lone VW with a bunch of Transits. Strange, but the company was excellent regardless of vehicle choice. I thoroughly enjoyed their stories of life on the road and it's always heartwarming to hang out with friendly faces when you're out and about.
Part 3 coming. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3119 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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joetiger wrote: |
I didn't like Sedona. It might have been a magical place at some point, but when you monetize something to death in order to attract convertible BMW's from the nearest metropolis, you've lost me. It was like a desert Breckenridge. |
I agree.
I did an internship with the USFS near Show Low AZ in 1996 and made my first foray to Moab and Sedona. One was still able to camp for free in most places outside of either town and even skinny dip in Oak Creek without fear of offending, or even seeing, anyone else for enough hours to get a horrendous sunburn.
Bill Stiles wrote a book called Brave New West that is really interesting reading for anyone who laments the Disneyfication of those and similar places.
Don't get me started on Fruita either.
I look forward to the rest of your TR! _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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I've driven a bit of that route & area in 2015 & 2017 and it's everything you never knew or expected it to be.
makes me yearn for more travel to the 4 corners, so we're planning on a 2021 revisit. it's a long ways from NY.
thanks for the pics, travel log and re-inspiration. |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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The following morning, I said goodbyes to Pam, Jeremy and their friends. They all headed off with Dave to do a ride from which I recused myself on the basis of being just slightly outclassed.
Instead, I hard-wired my fridge, freeing up the 12v socket mounted in my console for laptop charging.
All alone.
I also found the issue with my furnace. I thought that I'd run the furnace fuel line far enough from the exhaust to be okay, but engine bay heat had collapsed the line. No leaks, but also no flow. Lesson learned.
There's an Ace Hardware in Camp Verde, so I went there to get good, thick fuel line to splice in (I should have had fuel line with me--not sure how that got left out of my stash.)
On the way, I did a bit of light offroading and stopped by Montezuma's Castle National Monument.
After Camp Verde (and an encounter in a little Mexican restaurant in which the whole place stopped eating a looked at me like I was from Mars when I walked in) I drove around the area checking out scenery and bouncing on dirt roads.
I met Dave back at the campsite for furnace repair, bad guitar playing, camp dinner, and another incredible desert sunset.
Ironically, we had a relatively warm evening and there was no need for the furnace. That would change.
The next morning we packed up and headed out. There were a few washouts that needed attention. My van genuinely looks better dirty than clean. ("Pigpen" has a nice ring to it.)
We had a long day of driving the back roads across the Navajo Res towards Ship Rock, NM.
This road in particular, from Lukachukai across Roof Butte to Red Valley, was incredible. About 2000 feet of elevation gain in just a few miles of switchbacks. I was pulling 2nd gear going up, and this view was the payoff on the other side. You can see Ship Rock and snowy Colorado peaks in the distance.
We made Ship Rock at around 3:00. I didn't know at the time that you're not allowed to take this dirt road up to the rock, but nobody seemed to mind. We didn't get too close and only stayed for a few minutes.
We decided to go northwest towards Durango and find a campsite.
I don't have photos of what happened next because it was not the time to be clicking photos. Narrative will have to suffice.
After finding locked gates at two National Forest roads, we found a third that was open. We went up a tree-lined hill in mud and some snow and came upon a sloped clearing to the side of the road. It was mushy and a bit icy but it looked like a good spot to camp; the sun was setting and it was getting very cold.
Dave parked sideways to the hill, with mud/gravel on the up side and a sheet of ice to the down side. I tried to walk around the back of his van to the drivers side and found that it was so slick I almost slid down the hill on my feet to the road. Below/to the other side of the road was a wooded dropoff.
Dave needed to move his van off of that spot; he was painfully close to having that $100k machine going down the hill on its own. He tried to move and spun tires. He was stuck on the ice.
First we tried to get him traction with leveling blocks; no good. Next we tried to shovel the ice down to dirt, but with four inches of solid ice, that didn't work.
I had my recovery strap and a few D-hooks. I moved to point the Syncro up the hill and attached my hitch to his right rear two hook.
Then, we paused to look again, talk it through, and consider how freaking dangerous this was. If he couldn't get off the ice and lost traction, he might take me with him down the hill and off the other side. We decided that he would go in reverse, and me forward up the hill, to see if we could get him just a few feet up an onto gravel/mud.
I put it in G, he in reverse, and we hit it at the same time. Mud was flying everywhere and I could smell my clutch. It was just enough. My trusty Syncro pulled his 6000 lb. van about two feet up the hill and onto traction.
It was dark now, and the temp was dropping. We decided to get out before everything froze more and find another place to camp.
We decided on a big mexican dinner in Pagosa Springs where Dave had two shots of tequila in a feeble attempt to calm his nerves. After that, we pulled into a restaurant/truck stop that allows overnights and called it a day.
It was cold. Really cold. I primed my heater by sucking in a mouth full of kerosene, and it fired right up. And thank goodness it did, because did I mention it was cold?
The inside of my windshield the next morning.
The morning after a brisk night in Pagosa Springs.
One more post to wrap it up. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Syncro Jael wrote: |
It's a long clip but what a great adventure. Here is my trip report.
See you at the Solstice joetiger.
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Looking forward to it, Ron! I love your videos. Maybe someday I'll make the jump from still photos...
Jeffrey Lee wrote: |
But you being from Denver and all ... |
The agreement with Mother Nature is cold, dry January and February in Denver (to ride and get in shape) and snowy March. This year we got a curveball--it snowed every other day in February! I couldn't get on my bike at all. (Feeble excuse, I know.)
SCM wrote: |
Disneyfication |
It's everywhere. Jackson Hole, Banff, Taos, Moab, even up in the San Juan Islands.
They all have the exact same dumb T-shirts and stickers too. "My heart belongs to ____"
danfromsyr wrote: |
thanks for the pics, travel log and re-inspiration. |
Happy to oblige. Sometimes I wonder if I only do the trips to make trip reports.
After waking up cold in Pagosa, Dave and I parted ways for the last leg back to Denver. He was heading to a hot spring and I wanted to run by Great Sand Dunes Nat'l Park. I'm always trying to get the most value out of my park pass. And, I love the drive out there. The San Luis Valley is so giant. Peaks on all sides, nothing but farms and scrub, beautiful and desolate.
At the top of Poncha Pass, a cattle truck overturned. There was a two-hour delay while they cleared the accident.
It was a perfect time to put on some mellow music (Kevn Kinney in this case,) eat camp leftovers, read a book, and take a nap. Ah, the benefits of Vanagon ownership. That little red notebook in the upper right is full of ideas, issues, parts needs, and general thoughts. I don't travel without it.
I had to make a stop in Buena Vista to say hello to John and the crew at Urabus. These guys are so enthusiastic and friendly; it's got to be one of the finest Vanagon repair shops that you'll come across. I needed to absorb some good Vanagon vibes after a week with Ford Transits.
It was about a year ago that I came down to this shop to pick up my high top, and so this was a good time to reflect. I feel like I'm getting a lot out of the van now and haven't a single regret about adding a top floor.
Back at Chateau Joetiger. I've been slow to bond with this van the way I did with my Westy, but I think we came together on this trip. Nice work, Pigpen (tentative.)
Time to fix everything I broke and get out there again! _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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raoul mitgong Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2009 Posts: 1338 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Joe,
At your (our) age, you need a full suspension bike. The inefficiencies of a FS vs a hardtail become meaningless when you are able to sit down and let your legs recover while still rolling over some serious shit.
You are about 6' right? I'll send you some craiglist links.
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
91 Westy (Only the top 12 inches of this van (a burn victim)) |
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SCM Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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raoul mitgong wrote: |
Joe,
At your (our) age, you need a full suspension bike. The inefficiencies...
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Very much true. I noticed that exact thing when I got my first FS bike - and I was in my early 20s at that time! _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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joetiger Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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SCM wrote: |
raoul mitgong wrote: |
Joe,
At your (our) age, you need a full suspension bike. The inefficiencies...
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Very much true. I noticed that exact thing when I got my first FS bike - and I was in my early 20s at that time! |
I've been given this suggestion multiple times in the past week. All of those hardcore mountain bikers were seriously questioning my choice of bike. Definitely looking to upgrade. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
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raoul mitgong Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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I actually leave in the morning for Phoenix in my 2WD. Bringing the 6" travel MTB. Probably just go through NM as I'm short on time. Work trip with a little play along the way.
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
91 Westy (Only the top 12 inches of this van (a burn victim)) |
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riceye Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 1661 Location: Caledonia, WI
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Great trip report, Joe. I always enjoy reading the journals of your travels.
I'm so much jonesing for some western windshield time. The days are getting longer and summer is coming.
Thanks for sharing the vicarious voyage! _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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I didn't like Sedona. It might have been a magical place at some point, but when you monetize something to death in order to attract convertible BMW's from the nearest metropolis, you've lost me. It was like a desert Breckenridge. |
Nominated for Samba Prose (tm) _________________ .ssS! |
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jberger Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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joetiger wrote: |
SCM wrote: |
raoul mitgong wrote: |
Joe,
At your (our) age, you need a full suspension bike. The inefficiencies...
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Very much true. I noticed that exact thing when I got my first FS bike - and I was in my early 20s at that time! |
I've been given this suggestion multiple times in the past week. All of those hardcore mountain bikers were seriously questioning my choice of bike. Definitely looking to upgrade. |
I recently upgraded my mountain steed from a cross country FS rig to a 1x Enduro 170mm travel bike. It climbs amazingly and descends like my KTM... Don't waste another minute on a hardtail...
J |
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shadetreemech Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2005 Posts: 777 Location: Claremont, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Love that red dirt. Great report, nice pics & narrative.
I went through Sedona 40 years ago when 89A was my short cut through Four Corners over to I-25 and North into Denver. Sedona was just too cool for it's own good. For me, it's become Laguna Beach in the mountains. Pink Jeeps.
Spent time on Cedar Mesa last year, was at Chaco Canyon this time last year for Spring Equinox:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=726184&start=0
Headin' out next week with Cindy to show her the Grand Canyon, Canyon de Chelly & be at Chaco Canyon for Spring Equinox. From there, up to Mesa Verde, back into Monument Valley, through Page, then Zion and home.
Seeing your pics, I'm itching to get rolling.
Dan _________________ '84 GL 1.9
'01 Volvo V70 T5
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Great trip report, Joe!
Terrific to see you and Pigpen going through Tony Hillerman/Louis L'Amour country!!
I haven't been down that way in a lot of years - but I was reading North to the Rails yesterday! _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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erste Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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joetiger wrote: |
I also found the issue with my furnace. I thought that I'd run the furnace fuel line far enough from the exhaust to be okay, but engine bay heat had collapsed the line. No leaks, but also no flow. Lesson learned. |
Nice work fixing the issue and getting the furnace working! I've had countless issues with my Espar D2 and even knowing the fault codes, it can be tough to diagnose.
Glad you got Dave out of that icy spot safely. Sounds like it was pretty sketchy.
Awesome trip and it's great to hear that you're gaining trust in Pigpen(tentative). What do you miss most about the (s)old Westy? |
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dhaavers Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Report--Four Corners 2020 |
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Awesome report & pics, thanks!
I'm planning a return trip to this area after a tough year off. Thanks for the inspiration...
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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