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thomast Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:51 am Post subject: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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Toyo has recently put out a new Open Country AT3 tire. Thinking about trying a set for my 86 Syncro.
After reading Outwesty's Zincro Build threat where he gives the Open Country AT2s high marks, was set on getting those, but like the more aggressive look of the 3s.
If anyone has them, would like to hear what you think. I'm planning on the 225/70/16 size.
Thanks!
https://www.toyotires.com/product/open-country-at3 _________________ 1986 Westy Syncro SVX
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Squidfish Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Appears to be a nice new tire and would love to hear how it compares to a BFG KO AT. Available in a lot of sizes too.
Isn't a SL rated tire too light for use on a Vanagon though? I've seen folks running the Toyo AT2's also recently. _________________ 1985.5 - Vanagon Westfalia Weekender Wolfsburg Edition - LH8U - "Penny"
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thomast Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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I'm clearly not an expert, but the load rating for each tire is close to 1900+lbs. x 4 would be well above whatever my van weight is, which i'm guessing is between 5 and 6k lbs.
This tire is about 15lbs lighter and about $100 bucks cheaper than a BFG TAKO2s. The weight's probably not a huge deal having the SVX motor, but maybe a little less wear on the tranny and maybe better mpg's?
I've had BFG's on all of my 2wd vans and now on my Syncro. Curious to try something new. _________________ 1986 Westy Syncro SVX |
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bobbyblack Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Load rating on that size is 103T, far above the minimum.. Good rating for even a overloaded Westy. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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newerwesty1987 Samba Member
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DirtyBlueVan Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Dangit, I just put some 16in AT2s on my syncro. I had 15in nokian WRC tires the AT2s are much more comfortable. _________________ 1989 Syncro Westfalia 2.5 smallcar subie |
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thomast Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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A picture’s worth a thousand words...
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:57 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Are those $ running down the middle? _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Russpauly Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:30 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Will add this then to my list. The Falken Wildpeak A/T Trails were the ones going on, but I have time still and maybe these are an option as well... _________________ 1988 Wolfsburg Edition - TinTop
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Corwyn Samba Member
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jimf909 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Corwyn wrote: |
No 15-inch option. |
The OP's link shows 7 15" tires.
They're all relatively big tires for a Vanagon, the smallest is P215/75R15. _________________ - Jim
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thomast Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:36 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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New Toyo Open Country AT3s (225/70/16) are on. I've only driven a few miles so far, but I like the look and they felt solid and were fairly quiet on the road. They do have a ton of little 'hairs" on them. I'll either get used to that and leave them, or spend some time and take them off.
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Steve M. Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:17 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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Team WorldTour wrote: |
Are those $ running down the middle? |
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Steve M. Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:23 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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thomast wrote: |
. They do have a ton of little 'hairs" on them. I'll either get used to that and leave them, or spend some time and take them off.
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Oh no, leave them. They designed to create airflow to break up the tire noise! _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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vanagonjr Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:06 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III |
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jimf909 wrote: |
Corwyn wrote: |
No 15-inch option. |
The OP's link shows 7 15" tires.
They're all relatively big tires for a Vanagon, the smallest is P215/75R15. |
Yeah, I’m surprised how tall a tire some here choose to run with stock gearing... and I have a 1.8T and 5-spd.
I’m running 215/65-16— 27.0” tall, maybe a bit taller wouldn’t be too bad with my powertrain, but I don’t really have a need for taller tires. _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
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Escorial Syncro Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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I just went for a first drive on my new Toyo AT3's.
Gotta say I like them. Mine are 225/70/16, just like the OP's. Mine are mounted on 16x8 Italia AT rims ET 35 with enlarged centers.
Impressions: Smoother and not so harsh as the 10 year old BFG KO's that came off. Those were 215/70/16 mounted on Mercedes CLK rims. Seem to track better going down the road. The Toyos are slightly bigger, but I don't notice around town with the torquey TDI in my Syncro. I might feel it climbing hills, but we shall see.
Seems like a good tire for the money so far.
These fit pretty nice on a non-lifted syncro.
_________________ Joel Lane
1985 Vanagon converted to syncro, ALH TDI, Reimo Primus top with Westy interior
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Russpauly Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:09 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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Just bumbing this thread to see if anyone in a Non Syncro has tested these and has any additional thoughts on them. Looks like the General Grabbers are being discontinued, new Generals don't have a good size available for the ATx _________________ 1988 Wolfsburg Edition - TinTop
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_Kodiak Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:56 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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Thinking about running 215/70/16 on some Merc rims I just got on my Westy (2WD). Anyone have issues with this size contacting at full flex while turning the front wheels?
Anything wider than 70 I'd expect to have some issues with.
I was lookin at Wildpeak A/T's but still can't make up my mind if I should go the K02 route. I mostly do USFS road driving and highways, so I lean towards the A/Ts for road noise and all-condition capability, but now these Toyo's are an interesting option. |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:23 am Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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I'm sure it was in error, but my OCD dictates that I correct you. No offence intended.
_Kodiak wrote: |
215/70/16
Anything wider than 70 |
215 is the width in millimeters.
70 is the sidewall height ratio (70% of 215mm = 150mm)
16 is the rim size in inches the tire fits.
...and to add something to the thread, I am running 215/70/15 with no issue (1 inch smaller). _________________ 1990 Feldjäger Syncro AAZ
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Russpauly Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: New Tire: Toyo Open Country AT III - Follow up |
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Fit well on a lifted 2WD TinTop with CLKs
_________________ 1988 Wolfsburg Edition - TinTop
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