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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:04 am    Post subject: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

I'm pulling the Dash this weekend. Just want a gut check if I'm missing anything from the list of items to do;

Dash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLIsH2yqhoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMrfW6o2KQ

Blower Motor (reason for the removal in the first place.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7wgsznvcCE
https://www.busdepot.com/251819015

New seals for blower motor and foam for flaps
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773H12TT/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HK025OW/

Jeep Resistor mod
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=623382
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FOOV9E8/

Sound Deadening for front nose / floor etc
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BLSP8JV/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TV19PQF

Check and grease the wiper assembly
(No link for this one that I could find.)

I bought some 2 and 3 wire connectors to clean up some wiring too that I've added for the cruise control and stereo etc.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NBSF724/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076HLQ4FX

Ball Valve
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018H9VB8U

What else am I missing?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Just did this job and it's not horrible, but take your time. There are a lot of little parts that go along with it. Are you going to leave the heater core? I would replace it while you're in there. Unless your heater box (or whatever the right term is) has never been opened, I would want to avoid taking it apart any more than you have to. When I got to mine, someone had clearly been in there before and done a marginal job of getting it back together as stock. Lots of extra little screws, and they had to glue it together. This made for a real pan and lots of brittle plastic and associated issues. At any rate, if you're opening it up for the blower, I'd do the heater core.

Have you considered the BMW brake booster upgrade? That appears to be a dash pull job. When you get the dash out, you'll see just how much easier it is to get to then. It's an upgrade for sure, so not required, but if you're thinking about it, again, do it now. I did not and wish I had.

I also cleaned and replaced my grounds as necessary, which is just peace of mind.

I'd consider dealing with lighting etc. for the heater controls. Again, brittle plastic that you'd like to avoid taking apart more than once. Now is the time and the stuff is cheap.

Good luck. It's a satisfying job to complete. It's a bit tedious when you're doing it and one issue seems to trigger another but it's totally workable. However, I wouldn't want to do it often. So much old plastic.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

electrical mods

stash an amp for stereo

rust control
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Good time to install A/C.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

There is no need to replace the heater core. They never fail. Peter from Van Cafe told me that. He sold them because people requested them but he'd never seen one leak.
My 89 Tristar with 408K miles has its original core, The blower motor squeaks and the vents are leaky but the core is solid.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Good time for the BMW brake booster mod. I cant speak from personal experience though I am about to do mine. From what I hear, it’s a great upgrade especially when paired with bigger brakes. Good luck with your projects!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

If you plan on opening the heater box, don't forget the small clips to hold the tabs together when you close it.

Another option, which I did and worked well, is drill small holes in the tabs and insert small zip ties. It worked great.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Is the front blower bearing "lube tube" on your list? That'll keep your new motor happy for a long time...

Otherwise, sounds like you're right on track...grease everything and Git 'r DONE!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

sound insulation on the front panel.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Examine the clutch and brake assembly , the wear points..
Lots about that here on Samba.
Lube the shaft and bushings, no real need to take apart to get lube in, just get some light oil in there.

Maybe your heater control cables have kinked ends at the control lever end. Good time to replace them.

Have fun!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

https://intrepidoverland.com/dash-redo-deluxe/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Stan- much to think about, all good ideas,

As we do not smoke if the head was similar to the ashtry in size it could be a great concept for us.

I would like to find a system that works on low power house battery , and high power when engine is running or on shore power so not to consume the battery while camping
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I put a Mullendore Port in quick. Otherwise I pretty much stuck to my plan.

All the projects are complete and now it's time to reassemble.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Some one has mentioned relocating the fan resistor to behind the front grill for easy access in the future. I'm don't know if the Jeep mod includes that so ignore me as needed. Very Happy

Thanks for the thread with all the links. Bookmarked.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

I’d skip that ball valve and find one of these 3/4 pex mini valves...I did and it fits so much better

https://www.dahlvalve.com/product-search.php?page=...%2C+plated
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

For those that didn't see my post on the VOG here is what I discovered when I got the heater box off.

I was SHOCKED by the amount of shit in there.

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All cleaned up

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New foam

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Jeep Resistor mod. I'm mixed on this one honestly only because I'd like to find a resistor that perhaps has a bit of a slower lowest speed. It's works perfectly though.

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Box back in and sound deadening in. I'm really happy with how much less "35yo VW" the van sounds like right now. It's not really quieter per se. It's just feels a little more solid I guess? Next up with sound deadening is the wheel arches and doors for sure. Work my way back though the van as time allows. Suppose I'll have to pull the fridge again. ugh.

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Dash almost all buttoned up.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Looks like you were running a Rodent Ranch in there!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Yes, rodents are "preppers"

Be sure to put wire mesh over the entry points, and be careful about leaving the doors/hatch open as well as storage.

I once had a Zapus (jumping mouse) jump right into my Bay bus going over my leg while I was sitting in the slider.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

Nice Job!

What are the thicker seals used for?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773H12TT/

Anything else recommended or parts missing from your above list?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Out Projects Gut Check Reply with quote

zimflux wrote:
Nice Job!

What are the thicker seals used for?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773H12TT/

Anything else recommended or parts missing from your above list?

Thanks.


replacing the seal around the blower motor.

Watch this portion of the blower motor vid: https://youtu.be/h7wgsznvcCE?t=474
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