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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 10:40 pm    Post subject: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Back story:

I bought my 1977 Type 2 bus in 2012 and it drove pretty good for a number of years. The engine was a Type4 FI, 1600 2L. "Syd" was my surfer bus, and I loved her like a child. We had many good years together, and then one day in 2018, this happened:

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Long story short, Syd caught fire while in rush hour traffic in Portland. I had a fire extinguisher with me, which did put the fire out, but soon after it started back up and I was doomed.

For 18 months Syd sat in my garage. My intentions to fix her slowly ebbing away as I walked past her stricken state nearly every day.

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I thought if I could just get that burnt up engine out of her, I could make this happen, but it seemed so daughting.

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My lack of confidence continued to grow and I was ready to give up. Then Covid-19 came along, and I felt a resurgence of passion and enthusiasm, and I set about making Syd whole once again.

Granted, my lack of engine and mechanical know-how was, and is real, but I was motivated now to make it happen. Two weeks ago, through sheer determination, I pulled the engine.

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For me this was huge, and I felt a tremendous surge of confidence.. i CAN do this!!

Once the engine was out, I set about cleaning up and getting the engine compartment into a healthy place. I also started a search for a new engine, and have located a seasoned builder back in the Midwest. A newly built dual carb Type4 engine will soon be delivered.

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This weekend I set about cleaning up that back end, and here's where Syd currently stands:

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The next step is to get a new wiring harness installed. That starts tomorrow.

Stay tuned.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Glad to hear you survived every van/bus owners' worst nightmares.
And that something good can come of this virus shutdown.

Definitely keep us posted on the progress, okay?
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Youíve obviously dedicated much time and funds to getting your bus back on the road. Keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Awesome! Youíve got this! Iím impressed how her rear cleaned up. Wow, that sounds kinda bad...
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Looks great. I'm sure your going to remove the firewall and change All fuel hoses.
Was the inside really bad with smoke damage?
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Well done! Great to see you sorting your bus out. Bet you can't wait to get it back on the road.

Did you ever find out what exactly caused the fire?
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

That's amazing progress! Keep it up!
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Iím surprised it cleaned up so well. It looks like you got the fire out pretty quickly as it did not seem to burn beyond the engine compartment. You are very lucky you only lost the engine. Good luck with your project.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Looks great. Did you ever figure out where the fire began?
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Take the time and restore the fuel injection when you can. The expertise and parts chain for carbs are dying and the fuel injected motor is superior in many ways.

At lastly, the market for our car, if you ever want to sell, is vastly expanded if you can sell to CA, which you canít with a carved 1977

Robbie , asiab3 , can help you get squared away with FIJ
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

chris86uk wrote:
Well done! Great to see you sorting your bus out. Bet you can't wait to get it back on the road.

Did you ever find out what exactly caused the fire?


Not certain but fuel lines are highly suspected.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

orwell84 wrote:
Iím surprised it cleaned up so well. It looks like you got the fire out pretty quickly as it did not seem to burn beyond the engine compartment. You are very lucky you only lost the engine. Good luck with your project.


Very little damage beyond the engine compartment. Felt like the fire went on forever. In reality it went on for 30 min or so.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
Take the time and restore the fuel injection when you can. The expertise and parts chain for carbs are dying and the fuel injected motor is superior in many ways.

At lastly, the market for our car, if you ever want to sell, is vastly expanded if you can sell to CA, which you canít with a carved 1977

Robbie , asiab3 , can help you get squared away with FIJ


I purchased a Type4 2l dual carb. Most recommendations Iíve gotten have been to get a carb engine. The guy I found has decades of experience building Vw engines.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
Take the time and restore the fuel injection when you can. The expertise and parts chain for carbs are dying and the fuel injected motor is superior in many ways.

At lastly, the market for our car, if you ever want to sell, is vastly expanded if you can sell to CA, which you canít with a carved 1977

Robbie , asiab3 , can help you get squared away with FIJ


I purchased a Type4 2l dual carb. Most recommendations Iíve gotten have been to get a carb engine. The guy I found has decades of experience building Vw engines.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Struggling to find a good DYI video on installing wiring harness. One talks about how to read the diagram but Iím less certain about how to actually install it. Anyone know of a good resource?
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Running into a problem with my wiring. Right-front turn signal works when lights are off, but when I turn them on, it stops blinking. Can't seem to figure out why this is so. Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

capkirk45 wrote:
Running into a problem with my wiring. Right-front turn signal works when lights are off, but when I turn them on, it stops blinking. Can't seem to figure out why this is so. Any suggestions?

Thanks


Potential ground or relay issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

An update on the project ..

Spent the past 6 or 8 weeks (lost track) working on the restoration every night after day job, and all weekend. Pulled the burnt engine, repaired and painted back-end, bought new wiring harness and installed. Replaced tail lights. Replaced bad rear axle. Wired everything up.

New engine arrived last week (Willie Page). Figured out how to get it (500+ pounds) from truck, and into engine compartment. Spent two day desperately trying to get engine and transmission to mate. Doing this by yourself is probably not possible, as I found out, but I got very close. Had bus up on ramps, and that angle was killing me. Lesson learned, jack up front to reduce angle. Found a couple of helpers and got the mating done. Wired and hooked up everything else, but ran into a couple of issues ..

Issue 1: My accelerator cable was too short. Ordered an extender, which is coming. In the meantime I rigged up my own extender using a second barrel bolt and 20 gauge wire. It works, but I don't get full pedal extension. Hoping the extender fixes that.

Issue 2: Didn't realize the idiot wire coming off of VR needed to be hooked up to dash light, and my battery was not getting charged.

QUESTION: My wiring harness has a blue/greenish wire coming into engine compartment .. is that the correct wire for the idiot connector? I had this wire connected to oil pressure switch, which also looks to be blue on diagram.

Which wire goes to VR, and which goes to the oil pressure switch??

Issue 3: Does radio go to fuse 7? Does lighter also go to fuse 7?

Been a very interesting and enlightening experience, and a great way to pass this Covid-19 time away. Never thought I'd see old Syd healthy again, and it's truly sublime to be driving him again!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

Nice work. I would also install one of these:

http://blazecut.com/small-enclosures/description/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Taking the plunge on a restoration project Reply with quote

BUSBOSS wrote:
Nice work. I would also install one of these:

http://blazecut.com/small-enclosures/description/



Ye, excellent idea. And I bumped my insurance up Smile
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