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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Congratulations on the new project! I'm sure it'll turn out every bit as detailed and beautiful as your Westy did.
I dig those old rocker decals too. I really like these also:
https://www.vintagestickerfactory.com/en/westfalia-original-stickers/869-side-stripe-t3-syncro.html
_________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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JOE! hey, thanks for saying hi and thanks for the link!! That may be the way I go, so cool. |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Hey everyone,
So at last post we were just getting the headliner in shape and fleshing out the trim pieces...the old tired engine had been pulled and the tranny out also...
MY goal was to use some of the existing Adv wagen pieces for trim as they were already made to be there, this has worked out very well I think...also a long day was spent polishing the inside of the old tired Adv wagen top, it came out like new!
Ethan dove into getting the newly sourced fully rebuilt 2.1 cleaned up(it has about 15k on the clock) new fuel lines, the mustache bar had to be removed and swapped for the correct one too. I was lucky enough to get a hold of the builder in California and have a good conversation...a little piece of mind at least...at some point it will get a subi, but this made good sense for now.
Next was a 2.5 hr drive down to Canyon City to see Greg at Mr Gas, how lucky am I to have him so close...a super informative, friendly guy who gave us a quick look around his shop
after a few more days the engine started looking nice!
the whole top was sanded and the interlux adventure began, after some boat forum reading and video watching I finally learned the correct roll and tip method to get the long sides of the top to look smooth...more pics to come on this
we then glued, silicone and screwed the top down...its tight!
in the mean time the adhesive from the side had to be completely removed. Paint or no paint it had to come off, Theresa spent an entire day working it with lacquer thinner, simple green, heat...urghhh...but she won!
She also made the 30 y.o. engine compartment look like new again!!
in the mean time the dirty kitchen was disassembled and cleaned and repainted...and finally some test fitting began...and the propane tank(thanks Dave) was degreased, sanded, painted and hung.
holes finally cut out for drain and propane
Finally a full test fit, really starting to take shape! ***Note the resprayed headliner***
Well, about 300hrs in at this point this week, lots more to come but it is starting to feel like it will be out there in the wild where it belongs soon...
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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On my last post I left out a big step completed- the entire headliner, front to back, was re sprayed with SEM White, the panels will be re sprayed with SEM Medium Gray a bit later...it really makes things look new again
If you look closely you can see the old yellowed headliner compared to areas next to it that have been re sprayed.
And just for fun, another close up of the hell that was the previous sticker adhesive-
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uberaudi Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2013 Posts: 503 Location: Hi-top Country
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Excellent build!
I'm in the process of refurbishing my AW windows...what a pain! So much sticky black butyl that doesn't want to come off! I have the earlier version with the always leaky angled awning windows so now I'm just going to seal them shut and install a Maxxair fan in the top for ventilation.
What kind of screw strip did you use on the outside to hold your top on? This is one more thing I need to tackle while the vans out for paint. |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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uberaudi wrote: |
Excellent build!
I'm in the process of refurbishing my AW windows...what a pain! So much sticky black butyl that doesn't want to come off! I have the earlier version with the always leaky angled awning windows so now I'm just going to seal them shut and install a Maxxair fan in the top for ventilation.
What kind of screw strip did you use on the outside to hold your top on? This is one more thing I need to tackle while the vans out for paint. |
Thanks a lot!-
The black butyl goo came off without a huge amount of trouble, just time and a razor blade and some acetone. I really like those windows and wanted to keep them functional...mine want to leak a bit too but before the end I will use some black high end sealant that I will press into the seams that lie inside the exterior window casing, I have tested it and I believe it will help dramatically...
The screw strip is just a piece of aluminum stock, if I had it to do again I would go a bit thicker as it hides some variation in the imperfections of mounting it.
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16504 Location: Brookeville, MD
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pnwkayaker Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 920 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Great build, lots of work, turning out beautifully!
This last post is actually touching on something that I've had in my mind for a while, to refresh the interior of my Syncro - when you say "re sprayed" do you mean using something like the following?
https://www.amazon.com/SEM-15103-Super-White-Color/dp/B000PL24O4
If so, how many cans did you use?
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On my last post I left out a big step completed- the entire headliner, front to back, was re sprayed with SEM White, the panels will be re sprayed with SEM Medium Gray a bit later...it really makes things look new again
If you look closely you can see the old yellowed headliner compared to areas next to it that have been re sprayed.
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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pnwkayaker-
Yes thats the stuff, SEM is really high quality flexible paint that lays down really well. I would say the headliner takes 3 cans, of course it is really important to tape everything off, the mist of the paint will cover everything uncovered. several light coats are much better than fewer heavier. You can find it at most auto paint shops in stock and also they can give you a color chart so you can get the correct color.
thanks!
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outwesty Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2006 Posts: 1074 Location: Tahoe City
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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This has got to be one of the driest vans I have ever seen. I can't wait for the shake down meet up in a month or so. I'm stoked you decided to come back to the van scene. This will all be worth it very soon when we're parked in the middle of nowhere. |
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brokengun Samba Member
Joined: August 11, 2009 Posts: 188 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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I'm in the process of refurbishing my AW windows...what a pain! So much sticky black butyl that doesn't want to come off! I have the earlier version with the always leaky angled awning windows so now I'm just going to seal them shut and install a Maxxair fan in the top for ventilation. |
Me too! I am trying to find a good solution for this as well. Not quite ready to seal them but but it definitely may come to that. Not much info to be found on those older style AW windows it seems. _________________ 1984 Vanagon Adventurewagen with EJ22 conversion
1975 Beetle - Big whole in the floorboards
1974 Westy - Will be on the road one day!
1973 Bus - sold |
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Bicycle019 Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2012 Posts: 32 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Sweet project, glad you are making tons of progress on it. Saw you mention Mblotz earlier, looks like you live around the corner from his old place before he took off to the Great White North?
Hope to see this thing rolling around the Front Range soon. _________________ '89 Vanagon Whitestar
'84 Jetta GLI - built 2.0 ABA
'16 GTI Performance Pack
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Bicycle019 wrote: |
Sweet project, glad you are making tons of progress on it. Saw you mention Mblotz earlier, looks like you live around the corner from his old place before he took off to the Great White North?
Hope to see this thing rolling around the Front Range soon. |
Ha, yeah we became good buddies, he a a cool dude and one heck of a mechanic, upholsterer, fabricator...sheesh...miss that guy! |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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outwesty wrote: |
This has got to be one of the driest vans I have ever seen. I can't wait for the shake down meet up in a month or so. I'm stoked you decided to come back to the van scene. This will all be worth it very soon when we're parked in the middle of nowhere. |
Dude...I can hardly wait, you know the first place I'm heading is to your shop!
It'll be a short shakedown of about 3,000 miles haha
Thanks for all the help and tons of rediculous questions answered along the way...another AK journey on the way. |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Well, the work has not stopped haha...
more fitment and final bolting down of the galley, closets etc...along with more sanding of all the metal pieces and painting. Later on these will all get powder coated, but for now this will do just fine.
The p.o. had installed speakers in the rear and of course one was right where the cabinet went, I decided to keep it and just fit the speaker cover...
I had a hard time sourcing a water tank but finally found one and then had to pull the water cabinet back out and cut the hole...but now it was coming together.
I was fortunate to find that the wiring in the hightop was actually working, after a bit of trial and error I had lights!!
Another hard find were some correct hinges for the bed, once they arrived I got to work on getting the wood cut out and the hinges mounted up.
Hinges painted/mounted, wood sanded and some clear poly applied and bolted in!
Next up was the rehab of the fuel tank...maybe the worst possible job ever, after about 3 hours of sweat, grime, dirt, swearing constantly...it was out.
the tabs that hold the vent lines broke off but other than that all was good, I was able to get the sender unbolted and removed pretty easily with some pb blaster and finesse.
next up was getting the brackets into shape, they were rusty but had a lot of solid metal there yet, so I decided to use them.
afterward, I cleaned the entire area where the tank sits, wire brushed everything, repainted it and then sprayed it with 3M Cavity Wax.
Waxed
More to come... |
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Bicycle019 Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2012 Posts: 32 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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tschroeder0 wrote: |
Ha, yeah we became good buddies, he a a cool dude and one heck of a mechanic, upholsterer, fabricator...sheesh...miss that guy! |
Worked with him and his wife for many years, good people.
If I missed this before, what paint are you using on the rust repair spots? Looks like POR15? _________________ '89 Vanagon Whitestar
'84 Jetta GLI - built 2.0 ABA
'16 GTI Performance Pack
'17 Golf AllTrack (wife) |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7468 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Holy cow. That looks like 1,000 hours worth of photos. Thanks for posting all this work. Yeeehawwww. _________________ - Jim
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2008 Posts: 2096 Location: Boulder CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Bicycle019 wrote: |
tschroeder0 wrote: |
Ha, yeah we became good buddies, he a a cool dude and one heck of a mechanic, upholsterer, fabricator...sheesh...miss that guy! |
Worked with him and his wife for many years, good people.
If I missed this before, what paint are you using on the rust repair spots? Looks like POR15? |
--Any of the rust is actually very much surface-ish, so I didnt see the need for anything special at all, especially since it was going to get wax on top of it. Its just high temp enamel. And yeah Mike and Caro are the best of people for sure!! |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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jimf909 wrote: |
Holy cow. That looks like 1,000 hours worth of photos. Thanks for posting all this work. Yeeehawwww. |
--Thanks! Its been a ton of work and I am posting slow so I am actually a lot farther down the road than what I have posted so far.
I quit counting hours at about 400 haha...its good to be deep in it though, and luckily I have some tech support from the best vanagon guys in the country. |
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tschroeder0 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: Building the (im)perfect beast: The Saline Build |
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Another week of work and another post...this one is a bit schizophrenic but in a way it seems, that's the way you have to work when everything is apart and parts arrive at different times...
The fuel tank fun continues; after getting the tank cleaned up( I kept the insulation in place as it was not in too bad of shape and I planned on covering it in metal heat tape.
All fuel and vent lines were replaced, as was the sender and gaskets...I decided to zip tie the broken inserts for the vent lines up in the compartment as I believe they will be just fine and it may even allow for a bit more flexibility when fitting the tank...which was as expected a tough job
After removing the old filler tube it becomes pretty obvious why there are fill issues on a syncro...I ordered up a fancy new formed one:)
A jumble of old fuel and vent lines
Test fitting the tank...sooo unbelievably tight!
Tank in heat, metal tape applied
After removing the old filler tube it becomes pretty obvious why there are fill issues with Syncros...a new fancy formed one should help!
In the mean time a galley harness was installed and a propane line fitted, it was a little adventure to figure out the wiring harness but in the end there was success!!
There is a never ending amount of taping,gluing, painting and trimming to try to make the interior as nice as possible...slowly it is looking pretty dang good!
I finally found the correct high density foam for the skylight and tore into getting as nice as possible, the hinges needed a lot of cleaning and lube
the impossible to find skylight needed a broken piece fixed, slowly it Is getting there, still a bit more to do, to make it last and look good.
Next up was building the front 930 cv axles and getting them ready for install, a bit daunting to me, not sure why, and I needed a couple of questions answered...amazing guy that Burley...he actually answers the phone and cares about giving you the right information! So Cool.
A couple more pics of bringing the skylight back to life...
In case you were wondering haha
Well, we are getting there, but it's time for some much deserved fun...so without a van, its bike time, heading for NM to the Luna Mystica Hotel, check it out...a very cool place in the days of social distancing...see you soon
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