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sikamore Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2013 Posts: 24 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 4:33 pm Post subject: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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I live in Portland and a kill switch is mandatory if you want to keep possession of your van. My van has a Subaru EJ engine and Subaru pump relays. My first idea is to add a switch to lift the ground but can only find the ground on the pump itself. I want to keep my wiring inside the van and I think I have found the power to fuel pump ( see pic ) and am thinking of adding a switch to power supply. My questions are
1. Is this the power supply to the fuel pump?
2. Are there special considerations to adding a switch to power as opposed to ground?
3. Any advice to adding a kill switch on the fuel pump for a van with an EJ conversion?
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17153 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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It’s better practice to not run elec load through a switch. Most switches aren’t rated for continuous load amp draw.
Edit: I see you decided to stick with a toggle switch on the fuel pump ground. Pump can draw up to 7amps. Purchase a good quality switch that is rated for that load. When relays aren’t used, I prefer a DPST or double pole single throw switch. They have 2 sets of contacts so you can share the load.
Your switch needs to be where it can be easily bypassed if it fails to avoid getting stranded. Hope that helps. _________________ ☮️
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sikamore Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2013 Posts: 24 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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Thanks for your reply. Adding a relay and switch to my ECU sounds daunting .. Maybe the simplest is to pick up the ground at the pump and add a couple feet of wire to bring switch into the cab ? |
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BrownLoaf Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2021 Posts: 94 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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sikamore wrote: |
Thanks for your reply. Adding a relay and switch to my ECU sounds daunting .. Maybe the simplest is to pick up the ground at the pump and add a couple feet of wire to bring switch into the cab ? |
My father did this to my van about 15 years ago and it is still functioning as my kill switch today. There are more sophisticated solutions and I am waiting for the day when I need to make a roadside repair and return it to "factory" by bypassing the added wiring and switch. You can run the wires up near the parking brake and hide the switch under the parking brake boot. _________________ 83.5 Vanagon Riviera WBX 2.2 "Brown Loaf"
87 Vanagon Syncro Tin Top WBX 2.1 "Bubbles" |
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markswagen Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2018 Posts: 1038 Location: san diego
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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l wouldn't touch the engines harness, you could cut the fuel pump, you could also cut the switched power to the ecu.
ie, the black wire from the ignition key, that would have gone to the coil, on the stock van.
what ever you decide to do, l would NOT broadcast it on the internets _________________ markswagen {mobile mechanic} san diego area all early VW's cared for.
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sikamore Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2013 Posts: 24 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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Thanks, I will probably use the ground on the pump. It’s not an elegant solution but it is simple . It’s open season on Vans and I have been relying on my steering wheel club . |
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Chilepines Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2022 Posts: 142 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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I recently learned that the ignition wire coming from the VW (D15 in the front fuse panel) to the Subaru side is a quite effective kill switch. Problem for me was the van created this on its own 6 hours after we bought it! That circuit is known to burn out from carrying too much current, so as Mark said I would want to have a substantial switch on that wire to use it as a kill switch. _________________ White 89 Westy with 2004 Subaru EJ25 - Betty |
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fxr Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2014 Posts: 2325 Location: Bay area CA
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon EJ22 kill switch |
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Chilepines wrote: |
I recently learned that the ignition wire coming from the VW (D15 in the front fuse panel) to the Subaru side is a quite effective kill switch. Problem for me was the van created this on its own 6 hours after we bought it! That circuit is known to burn out from carrying too much current, so as Mark said I would want to have a substantial switch on that wire to use it as a kill switch. |
Use a relay! _________________ Jim Crowther
1984 1.9l EJ22 Westy Wolfsburg Edition
Vespa GTS 300 |
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