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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3051 Location: MD
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:06 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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This is a great upgrade. It took me a little to get used to it, but I am liking it more every day. I think it's one of those mods that, at first its so different you think about it a lot, but over time as you get used to it you think about it less and less and you wonder if its good? But thats the thing about great design, if its done properly you will barely think about it at all. I bought this shifter because the stock shift throw consistently annoyed me for 6 months.
The 025 motorsport 711 shift throw is how VW should have designed it from the beginning. _________________ '87 Syncro
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Gpeck96 Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2011 Posts: 37 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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It would be great to see a write up, with tons of pictures from anyone that has done the installation.... just saying |
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9.5isCanadian Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2017 Posts: 465 Location: In your blind spot.
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Second the idea of a comprehensive write up.
Shows “out of stock” now btw.....
_________________ 9 1/2 - missing a few pieces.
1987 Getaway Hightop
1980 Sunroof Vanagon
2018 BMW R Nine T
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4026 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Interested, but will wait until the 2nd Generation unit comes out. I've driven a couple of those Big Shot shifters and I can say I am not impressed.
It feels like the BERG shifter I once had in my bug that I took out and put my Hurst right back in.
This new shifter looks much nicer and more normal.
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
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Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 3051 Location: MD
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:02 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Gpeck96 wrote: |
It would be great to see a write up, with tons of pictures from anyone that has done the installation.... just saying |
I can add tons of pictures to my build thread, but I don't think you'll get anymore out of it past the 2 I posted. When installed it doesn't look any different. _________________ '87 Syncro
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Gpeck96 Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2011 Posts: 37 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:04 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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4Gears4Tires wrote: |
Gpeck96 wrote: |
It would be great to see a write up, with tons of pictures from anyone that has done the installation.... just saying |
I can add tons of pictures to my build thread, but I don't think you'll get anymore out of it past the 2 I posted. When installed it doesn't look any different. |
Yes, that would be appreciated - along with any lessons learned, fitment issues (if any), measurements taken to ensure smooth operation, parts replaced, etc. Basically, anything that can help others with the install. |
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Franklinstower Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1896 Location: PNW
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:24 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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anyone know how adaptable this shifter would be to run a modified ball and cup for a Subaru tranny? Has it been done yet? _________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
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Multiman mv Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2017 Posts: 987 Location: Martha's Vineyard, Ma
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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How is the install? Is it already set up so that if your stock shifter is dialed in, this one will be automatically dialed in or is there some fiddling to do in order to get it calibrated properly? Looks like something i might have to put on my list. _________________ 1991 multivan, FAS 1.9 tdi, Peloquin limited slip
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Multiman mv Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2017 Posts: 987 Location: Martha's Vineyard, Ma
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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16CVs wrote: |
Interested, but will wait until the 2nd Generation unit comes out. I've driven a couple of those Big Shot shifters and I can say I am not impressed.
It feels like the BERG shifter I once had in my bug that I took out and put my Hurst right back in.
This new shifter looks much nicer and more normal.
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I tried the big shot shifter in my van and took it out after a half hour. Im sure others love it but i really didnt like it at all either. This new shifter looks like its worth exploring though. _________________ 1991 multivan, FAS 1.9 tdi, Peloquin limited slip
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5391 Location: PNW
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Multiman mv wrote: |
How is the install? Is it already set up so that if your stock shifter is dialed in, this one will be automatically dialed in or is there some fiddling to do in order to get it calibrated properly? Looks like something i might have to put on my list. |
If we assume that the rods are aligned where they join and all the components are in good shape (bushings, ball/socket, etc), the only real adjustment if the shifter itself is to fine tune the left/right bias so the shifter slides into gear smoothly when pushed forward or backward (1st gear/2nd gear for a 4 speed and Syncro, 2nd/3rd for a 2wd 5 speed).
If you want to send me an email through the website email (below in my signature), I'd be happy to send you a copy of the installation instructions to review. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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DigiMatrix Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2010 Posts: 450 Location: Up North Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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I'd like to get a copy of the instructions, BUT with one of these shifters! Christopher, when are they going to finally be back in stock? |
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Multiman mv Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2017 Posts: 987 Location: Martha's Vineyard, Ma
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:06 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Gpeck96 wrote: |
4Gears4Tires wrote: |
Gpeck96 wrote: |
It would be great to see a write up, with tons of pictures from anyone that has done the installation.... just saying |
I can add tons of pictures to my build thread, but I don't think you'll get anymore out of it past the 2 I posted. When installed it doesn't look any different. |
Yes, that would be appreciated - along with any lessons learned, fitment issues (if any), measurements taken to ensure smooth operation, parts replaced, etc. Basically, anything that can help others with the install. |
Definitely interested in seeing someone install one of these. I think when they come available again im going to bite and ill post any photos and info that i have learned from the process.
Christopher was nice enough to send me the install directions for the shifter. if anyone wants to pm me with their email address i can forward them along. It looks pretty straight forward but would love to see photos to confirm a couple things. _________________ 1991 multivan, FAS 1.9 tdi, Peloquin limited slip
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iliketowalk Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2011 Posts: 614 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:01 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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I guess I never felt like the stock shifter was really that bad?
A properly adjusted stock shifter in halfway decent shape should work with 2 fingers and no "hunting". Usually the ball and cup at the trans, or the bushings in the middle, or the ears at the front cause most of the slop and this only takes care of 1/3 of those things.
If you're doing a spared no expense build I can see the appeal though, because shiny and made by a craftsperson. _________________ 1986 Weekender "Birch" |
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Crooked Designer Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2018 Posts: 323 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:40 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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I'm using stock shifter (with short shift kit) at the moment with 5speedbus hardware under the van. Any chance this would work on a subaru 5 speed transmission on a 2wd? The amount of left right movement in the shifter when I'm in gear has always bothered me. Also very easy to put it in 3rd instead of 1st on startup from a stop. _________________ '85 Westy full camper, Subaru 2.5L, 5 speed SubiGears + 5speedbus shifter kit |
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1988Dokaguy Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2019 Posts: 15 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:49 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Gpeck96 wrote: |
It would be great to see a write up, with tons of pictures from anyone that has done the installation.... just saying |
I had pics with mine (check out previous page). Chris wondered if I had the quick shift kit on when I did the before pics, but I didn't. I measured from the dash to the knob at the same point for before and after, so it's not horizontal. The 711 recentered the stick closer and tightened shifting compared to the wild stock shifting experience I had before. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5391 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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Just a quick note to let those who have been waiting that the 711 shifters are back in stock.
http://t3technique.com/drivetrain-parts/479/ _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
T3Technique.com or contact me at [email protected] |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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First try at the boot--too short, but if you're going to have a sporty shift lever, why not have a sporty boot? JoAnne Fabric vinyl. Brake boot is real leather. Hate plastic stuff. Next step is to cover the clock heater panel with matching dash crash foam as well. |
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Tristar Eric Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2004 Posts: 1242 Location: Portland, Or
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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We've got one on the famous Polizei 24 hours of lemons race van. I was lucky enough to score one from Christopher earlier this year.
I have to say, it took me about 3 tries to get it dialed. For the race track we do a bunch of 3-4 shifts. Having the shifter favor this gate makes it precise and easy.
When we do have to find 2nd, there's no hunting, and the adjusting the pressure to enter the 1-2 gate is just that, adjustable to your liking.
With multiple drivers during a race, taking the slop out of the shifter prevents a ton of mis-shifts. It does also help to go through your entire shifter bushings and replace with new. Makes for crispy very precise shifting.
We finished our last race with this shifter installed 3rd overall and 2nd in our class. Our saturday times were 2 seconds faster than the previous year. Only changes were 1. Shifter, and 2. a 9" wheel on the fronts vs 7.5"
Two thumbs up on the shifter, and it held up to our abuse. We have another race in December - Sonoma raceway just north of San Francisco.
Eric _________________ Vanagon/Transporter flares here: www.terrawagen.com
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Tristar Eric Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2004 Posts: 1242 Location: Portland, Or
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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We've got one on the famous Polizei 24 hours of lemons race van. I was lucky enough to score one from Christopher earlier this year.
I have to say, it took me about 3 tries to get it dialed. For the race track we do a bunch of 3-4 shifts. Having the shifter favor this gate makes it precise and easy.
When we do have to find 2nd, there's no hunting, and the adjusting the pressure to enter the 1-2 gate is just that, adjustable to your liking.
With multiple drivers during a race, taking the slop out of the shifter prevents a ton of mis-shifts. It does also help to go through your entire shifter bushings and replace with new. Makes for crispy very precise shifting.
We finished our last race with this shifter installed 3rd overall and 2nd in our class. Our saturday times were 2 seconds faster than the previous year. Only changes were 1. Shifter, and 2. a 9" wheel on the fronts vs 7.5"
Two thumbs up on the shifter, and it held up to our abuse. We have another race in December - Sonoma raceway just north of San Francisco.
Eric _________________ Vanagon/Transporter flares here: www.terrawagen.com
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Multiman mv Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2017 Posts: 987 Location: Martha's Vineyard, Ma
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 am Post subject: Re: 025 Motorsport 711 Shifter Available at T3 technique... |
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So I just installed the 711 shifter (sourced through T3 Technique) and man I love this upgrade. The install was very straight forward and took a little over an hour. I had to make a minor adjustment at the spline joint but other than that this was a plug and play upgrade. The shift pattern has been tightened up dramatically. The feeling is very notchy and there is absolutely no slop in the stick shift at all. My stock shifter used to rattle in 4th gear and all gears had a certain amount of slop. For anyone who is considering this upgrade, I highly recommend it. You will not be disappointed. The engineering and fabrication of this shifter is top notch. It’s amazing how much tighter the shift pattern is. The shift pattern at the knob has been reduced to a 3 1/2’ wide x 6 1/2’ high area as measured from the outside of knob (not including reverse.) If measuring the shifting area from the center of the knob, the area is only 2” wide by 5” high. As described in the product description, neutral is centered within this pattern, not biased to the right in line with 3rd and 4th like stock. Great upgrade.
_________________ 1991 multivan, FAS 1.9 tdi, Peloquin limited slip
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