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MitchS046 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 114 Location: Holland
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:57 am Post subject: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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hi does anyone have experience with these products or have pointers about them? it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft but drilled for an 8 dowel setup comp will be around 9,5:1
second hand JSC strenghtened 1.4 rockers
Mahle C+P.
Engele FK-8 cam
CSP adjustable cam gear
CB 044 heads with big valves, dual springs and titan retainers.
second hand Kennedy stage 1 pressure plate with a 4 puck clutch (which needs replacing) .
Clutch Disc 200 mm gefedert. DAIKIIN (for when the 4 puck runs out)
VW speedshop 42mm IDF thottle bodies.
CSP Cooling System Porsche-Style Type-1 240mm Carbon Fiber.
Scat leightened type-1 flywheel.
Chrome Moly CB Rods 5.400'' ARP 5/16'' for Type-1 Journal and 22mm Pins. weight ca.568g.
Scat gland nut and washer
Lifter Type-1 SCAT 94g.
CSP Push Rod Tubes Type-1.
CSP Oil Pump Cover Type-1 '68-. M18x1.5 Fitting and Pressure Valve.
the dub shop EFI + crank trigger kit. _________________ Slow is smooth, smooth is fast,
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5600 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:44 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Scat gland nut and washer |
Is it the 1 1/2" one? If so and you have a Torque Meister, take a 1 1/2" socket and weld an axle nut on top so you can use the tool on the larger nut.
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Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:48 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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MitchS046 wrote: |
it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft |
Why not a counter weighted crank? _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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buguy Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 4915 Location: Port Orange, FL
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:42 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Dubshop is second to none. Can't go wrong there. |
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MitchS046 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 114 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:55 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Glenn wrote: |
MitchS046 wrote: |
it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft |
Why not a counter weighted crank? |
Stock crank is super strong and a lot of people who build performance engines for a living told me to stick with the stock crank _________________ Slow is smooth, smooth is fast,
~ mark divine |
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RailBoy Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2008 Posts: 2904 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:05 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB _________________ [quote="smitty24"]"HELP, I ported my own heads and now have fire coming out my ass" .[/quote]
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:24 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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MitchS046 wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
MitchS046 wrote: |
it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft |
Why not a counter weighted crank? |
Stock crank is super strong and a lot of people who build performance engines for a living told me to stick with the stock crank |
Built in rev limiter. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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MitchS046 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 114 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:39 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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RailBoy wrote: |
Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB |
I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready _________________ Slow is smooth, smooth is fast,
~ mark divine |
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MitchS046 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 114 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:41 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Built in rev limiter.[/quote]
Yes was thinking on about 6200 rpm limit to not over rev it also will balance the whole assembly for reliability and longjevity _________________ Slow is smooth, smooth is fast,
~ mark divine |
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4027 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:41 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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I'm on my eighth year of testing that max rpm on stock crank theory........5200-5800 rpm and still going strong.......
40,000 miles are on the bottom end with 13-25 lbs boost. _________________
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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MitchS046 wrote: |
RailBoy wrote: |
Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB |
I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready |
How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank?
Of course you can have a stock crank made into a CW. _________________ Glenn
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KROC Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2006 Posts: 359 Location: Vancouver B.C.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:08 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Here’s a 9000 rpm dyno pull with a stock crank 1600cc ish.
https://youtu.be/9868ihgGVk8
If it is built correctly it will be fine. sure it might beat up the case sooner than later. Balance it really really good.
Anybody have a stock german 69mm crank that they have broken in half from high rpms, they can show me ? ( crank failure from other components blowing up first doesn’t count ) 😛 |
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KROC Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2006 Posts: 359 Location: Vancouver B.C.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:15 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Glenn wrote: |
MitchS046 wrote: |
RailBoy wrote: |
Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB |
I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready |
How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank?
Of course you can have a stock crank made into a CW. |
Any VW crankshaft can be balanced ...Counterweights have nothing to do with balance in theory they are there for strength. bigger the better I would guess. |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7214 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:17 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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I can´t show pics, but I have seen it several times especially back in the 90´s when I began to work with hi perf. VW engines. Sometimes it was not just the crank that broke. Sometimes the case broke into 4 or more parts. Short burst hi rpm with a stock crank and (light) rotating assembly in PERFECT balance is okay. Street driving with high rpm sustained like possible if the above gets assembled nice, is just plain stupid. |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7023 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:24 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Glenn wrote: |
How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank? |
Same way the factory did, you drill into the webs to remove a little material.
_________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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MitchS046 Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2020 Posts: 114 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:45 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Alstrup wrote: |
Short burst hi rpm with a stock crank and (light) rotating assembly in PERFECT balance is okay. Street driving with high rpm sustained like possible if the above gets assembled nice, is just plain stupid. |
luckily it won't be sustained time at high rpms just cruise and the occasional highway/ stoplight pull. _________________ Slow is smooth, smooth is fast,
~ mark divine |
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Onceler Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2010 Posts: 1647 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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Make sure the Engle cam and scat lifters are compatible material wise. _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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SO WHATS STRAIGHTENED ROCKERS?? |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5600 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:57 am Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
SO WHATS STRAIGHTENED ROCKERS?? |
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second hand JSC strenghtened 1.4 rockers |
_________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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