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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:57 am    Post subject: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

hi does anyone have experience with these products or have pointers about them? it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft but drilled for an 8 dowel setup comp will be around 9,5:1

second hand JSC strenghtened 1.4 rockers

Mahle C+P.

Engele FK-8 cam

CSP adjustable cam gear

CB 044 heads with big valves, dual springs and titan retainers.

second hand Kennedy stage 1 pressure plate with a 4 puck clutch (which needs replacing) .

Clutch Disc 200 mm gefedert. DAIKIIN (for when the 4 puck runs out)

VW speedshop 42mm IDF thottle bodies.

CSP Cooling System Porsche-Style Type-1 240mm Carbon Fiber.

Scat leightened type-1 flywheel.

Chrome Moly CB Rods 5.400'' ARP 5/16'' for Type-1 Journal and 22mm Pins. weight ca.568g.

Scat gland nut and washer

Lifter Type-1 SCAT 94g.

CSP Push Rod Tubes Type-1.

CSP Oil Pump Cover Type-1 '68-. M18x1.5 Fitting and Pressure Valve.

the dub shop EFI + crank trigger kit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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Scat gland nut and washer

Is it the 1 1/2" one? If so and you have a Torque Meister, take a 1 1/2" socket and weld an axle nut on top so you can use the tool on the larger nut.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

MitchS046 wrote:
it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft

Why not a counter weighted crank?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Dubshop is second to none. Can't go wrong there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
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it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft

Why not a counter weighted crank?


Stock crank is super strong and a lot of people who build performance engines for a living told me to stick with the stock crank
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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it is for a 1915 street engine with an stock crankshaft

Why not a counter weighted crank?


Stock crank is super strong and a lot of people who build performance engines for a living told me to stick with the stock crank

Built in rev limiter.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB


I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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Built in rev limiter.[/quote]
Yes was thinking on about 6200 rpm limit to not over rev it also will balance the whole assembly for reliability and longjevity
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

I'm on my eighth year of testing that max rpm on stock crank theory........5200-5800 rpm and still going strong....... Wink Rolling Eyes Laughing

40,000 miles are on the bottom end with 13-25 lbs boost.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB


I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready

How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank?

Of course you can have a stock crank made into a CW.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Here’s a 9000 rpm dyno pull with a stock crank 1600cc ish.

https://youtu.be/9868ihgGVk8

If it is built correctly it will be fine. sure it might beat up the case sooner than later. Balance it really really good.

Anybody have a stock german 69mm crank that they have broken in half from high rpms, they can show me ? ( crank failure from other components blowing up first doesn’t count ) 😛
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
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RailBoy wrote:
Needs to be counter weighted to break the 4,000 RPM barrier with out vibrations... Dynamic balancing is needed as well.. RB


I will defenitely balance the whole assebly when I’m ready

How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank?

Of course you can have a stock crank made into a CW.


Any VW crankshaft can be balanced ...Counterweights have nothing to do with balance in theory they are there for strength. bigger the better I would guess.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

I can´t show pics, but I have seen it several times especially back in the 90´s when I began to work with hi perf. VW engines. Sometimes it was not just the crank that broke. Sometimes the case broke into 4 or more parts. Short burst hi rpm with a stock crank and (light) rotating assembly in PERFECT balance is okay. Street driving with high rpm sustained like possible if the above gets assembled nice, is just plain stupid.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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How do you balance a non-counterweighted crank?

Same way the factory did, you drill into the webs to remove a little material.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Alstrup wrote:
Short burst hi rpm with a stock crank and (light) rotating assembly in PERFECT balance is okay. Street driving with high rpm sustained like possible if the above gets assembled nice, is just plain stupid.


luckily it won't be sustained time at high rpms just cruise and the occasional highway/ stoplight pull.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

Make sure the Engle cam and scat lifters are compatible material wise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

SO WHATS STRAIGHTENED ROCKERS??
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: does anyone have exerience with these products? Reply with quote

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SO WHATS STRAIGHTENED ROCKERS??


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