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mattlockwood Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2012 Posts: 360 Location: KCMO
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: Tell me all about the Puma |
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Curious about the Brazilian Puma.....
Does the body fit on a beetle frame?
Does an IRS trans fit?
Does a standard 1600 sp fit? I’ve seen ads for fan housings that look a little flatter than the regular 1600 doghouse .
More questions to follow as I think of them.... _________________ 1970 Bay Window Bus.
110 hp 6 cyl Aircooled automatic |
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rayjay Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2008 Posts: 1505 Location: Buford GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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IMO the Puma is the best looking of all the "kit cars" [ I know it's not really a kit car". It was styled by Pininfarina in a roundabout way. If you look at the early Ferrari 365GT 2+2 you will see where the styling for the Puma came from !!
They don't use a bug pan. You can use Ghia floorpans as replacements but I think they takes some mods to work. Swingaxles. I have heard that to convert to IRS you have to cut up the underside of the body.
Not much headroom like all most all the swoopy kit cars. The VW pans have the bottom of the floor pretty much inline with the axles which is where the problem lies. That and the 15" wheels.
There are several yt vids with some puma footage. |
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Petfisheric Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2014 Posts: 121 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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The VW based Puma started life on a cut down Karmann Ghia floor pans. Later the Brazilia, not really any difference. Plenty of people do the IRS conversion pretty easily but they all started life with a swing axle. The seats are flush with the floor and allow for plenty of headroom up to about 6' unless you have a convertible then its unlimited
Most Puma's had a dual port 1600 with dual carbs and a Brazilia fan housing which is commonly referred as Puma fan housing in North America. Puma supposedly modified the standard 1600 to get 75 hp instead of the factory 65 hp. They also offered an 1800.
Of course all of those brought in the US carried the moniker of "Kit car" to get around crash testing requirements. So some of those were sold with out transaxles or engines leaving it up to the buyer to source. When I bought my GTC they had a 2110 in it but offered it with the original 1600. After a test drive I elected to get the 1600 so I wouldn't end up in jail or dead.
A lot of the mechanical are interchangeable with North American/ European parts but a few items like the Master cylinder has to be sourced form Brazil. |
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David Grason Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2005 Posts: 103 Location: Princeton, Kentucky
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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Petfisheric wrote: |
When I bought my GTC they had a 2110 in it but offered it with the original 1600. After a test drive I elected to get the 1600 so I wouldn't end up in jail or dead.
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So, what are you saying here?
Was the car insanely fast? ...or were there other problems such as handling that the higher horsepower engine exacerbated? _________________ ¡Siempre Viven Los Vochitos!
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Petfisheric Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2014 Posts: 121 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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The car was fast and I knew I would get in serious trouble. |
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VWFIXER Banned
Joined: January 21, 2011 Posts: 411 Location: Hawaii- Rarotonga
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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Had some neat OG Puma carbs and manifolds, does anyone know WTF I am talking about? Steel, Tall, DP OG VW part numbers, barn was cleaned out while i was in Thailand. _________________ ( ) Cheap
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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VWFIXER Banned
Joined: January 21, 2011 Posts: 411 Location: Hawaii- Rarotonga
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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Max Welton wrote: |
I think Pumas originally got Kadrons on their 1600s, right?
Puma is one of the three kit-cars I wouldn't kick out of bed. The other two are the Manx SR and the Sterling.
Make that four. SP2 is right sexy.
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Nope, they used Solex PDSIT carbs with tall VW (upright engine) manifolds. _________________ ( ) Cheap
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Buggeee Samba Member
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VWFIXER Banned
Joined: January 21, 2011 Posts: 411 Location: Hawaii- Rarotonga
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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Buggeee wrote: |
Here are the pictures I have of my Puma's carburetors
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Many thanks! I had two complete sets with oil bath upgrades... with parts almost to build another set. Can you please give me the part numbers on the side of the manifolds?
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Buggeee Samba Member
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4407 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Tell me all about the Puma |
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[quote="VWFIXER"]
Buggeee wrote: |
I had two complete sets with oil bath upgrades... with parts almost to build another set. Can you please give me the part numbers on the side of the manifolds?
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I can't read numbers on what I can see from the engine compartment. Doing one better, here are the parts diagrams and lists of part numbers for the carburetors and related fixings. If my maker is willing I'll scan the whole book one day and send it to Everett for the archives.
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