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tlake
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 Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:08 pm Post subject: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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There were rotary engines and Betamax players, what else can you think of, and will electric cars be next, lol  
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Zundfolge1432 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| Electric cars are going to be with us you can bet on that. |
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vwinnovator
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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electric cars are already here...
Wind, water, solar resources will continue to generate electric to charge these vehicles far longer than oil resources will...and far cleaner (except for the debate on lithium)
could easily be at a 50/50 gas to electric vehicles in service in next 20yrs |
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Q-Dog
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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Lyft, the ride sharing app, just committed to having an all electric fleet by 2030. I don't really understand what that means, since they don't actually own the cars people are driving. My guess is, Lyft won't exist by 2030, while electric cars will be doing just fine.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| vwinnovator wrote: |
electric cars are already here...
Wind, water, solar resources will continue to generate electric to charge these vehicles far longer than oil resources will...and far cleaner (except for the debate on lithium)
could easily be at a 50/50 gas to electric vehicles in service in next 20yrs |
Maybe 50/50 hybrid but not 50/50 all electric in a North America at least
That’s only three purchase cycles of car ownership and no way 50% of America will buy an electric windup buggy for the next two, for the usual reasons.
They aren’t capital cost effective and they won’t be economy competitive once the electricity tax hits
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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I mean, Betamax was only discontinued by Sony 4 years ago... and they're still made by 3rd parties so they kind of made it 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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VR keeps disappointing, autonomous vehicles, nuclear fusion. I’m still hopefull for battery powered life size quadcopters.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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3D printing. Graphene. Nano anything. Gene editing. IOT. Industrial robots are still stuck in the 80’s, but now with touchscreens  maybe 50 more years these technologies will be more transformative
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| 8 track tape player was futuristic but was superceded by cassette which was superceded by compact disc which was superceded by MP3 is this what the OP is looking for? |
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vwinnovator
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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I'm still waiting for my flying car.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| vwinnovator wrote: |
electric cars are already here...
Wind, water, solar resources will continue to generate electric to charge these vehicles far longer than oil resources will...and far cleaner (except for the debate on lithium)
could easily be at a 50/50 gas to electric vehicles in service in next 20yrs |
You’re not wrong. Years ago, I was super big into RC cars and the rage was nitro engines and multiple nitro engines to make cars faster. Then electric brushed and then brushless motors came along and damn, people really took off with it. Electric is the standard now. Runtimes are longer, power is smoother in delivery and throttle control, more predictable and programmable, and overall better for the racer in every way. More torque, more HP per pound. Electric cars will take off soon enough to the point of no return. F1’s are racing electric, dirt bikes are going electric, aircraft are venturing into electric, motorcycles are coming out electric. It’s the rage and will be the way of the future. |
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You’re not wrong. Years ago, I was super big into RC cars and the rage was nitro engines and multiple nitro engines to make cars faster. Then electric brushed and then brushless motors came along and damn, people really took off with it. Electric is the standard now. Runtimes are longer, power is smoother in delivery and throttle control, more predictable and programmable, and overall better for the racer in every way. More torque, more HP per pound. Electric cars will take off soon enough to the point of no return. F1’s are racing electric, dirt bikes are going electric, aircraft are venturing into electric, motorcycles are coming out electric. It’s the rage and will be the way of the future. |
Remember when stepless ceramic speed controllers came out? BEC tech? Game changers!
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the orgasmatron...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Future Tech that didn't make it |
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| DeVerde wrote: |
You’re not wrong. Years ago, I was super big into RC cars and the rage was nitro engines and multiple nitro engines to make cars faster. Then electric brushed and then brushless motors came along and damn, people really took off with it. Electric is the standard now. Runtimes are longer, power is smoother in delivery and throttle control, more predictable and programmable, and overall better for the racer in every way. More torque, more HP per pound. Electric cars will take off soon enough to the point of no return. F1’s are racing electric, dirt bikes are going electric, aircraft are venturing into electric, motorcycles are coming out electric. It’s the rage and will be the way of the future. |
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There is no doubt that electric cars will eventually take off....BUT....there are some huge hurdles that just throwing money and brains at it will not solve...in the short term.
Too many people who think this is "just around the corner"...usually read too many poorly researched articles or have no idea of what the "component" manufacturing hurdles are. This is not saying YOU are poorly researched...just that the general public is.
It runs along the same lines as 3D printing ...fantastic booming industry....but its capabilities are light years short of where the general public thinks it is. I work in the industrial print industry serving everything from solar to aerospace to medical device to all electronics.
About one a week I run into a 3D printer rep, tech, engineer...who swear they will put us out of business very soon. Been saying that for two decades....and have not been able to touch the vast majority of application....mostly in ability not even worried bout cost right now.
Electric cars have a lot of the same issues. The "motors"...are actually already there and will get even better in the short term.
However....the power packs...batteries.....are nowhere near where they need to be and its not just an argument about metals like lithium (yes, thats an issue)....but its about power factor and longevity and temperature flexibility. That translates to weight issues, volume/size issues and mileage issues.
Until they can be at a current car level of affordability at a production volume for the masses... that means between $20k and $25k....with fully recyclable materials....AND meet mileage on one charge distances that equal the range of a current hybrid (which is where all of the requirements are driving toward)....and be technology that is scale-able to allow using it in trucks, buses....and maybe even locomotives (hint- a lot of the most promising technology has already been tried in locomotives....but too far before its proper time) ......unless all of the above can come together....the electric car will continue to be a novelty for east and left coasties who do not have far to drive or drive only urban distances.
All that...and the most important factor is that to be totally practical....the electric car will need to have an instant recharge time. This means it will have to have a modular power pack that can be inserted at a fuel station by any driver .
A German company ran prototypes of this about 10 years ago. Cylindrical fuel cells about 5" diameter and 18" long that just plug in. Interesting but not quite there.
Or.....and this goes back to my locomotive hint  ...some of the best possible electric car technology.....we will probably see in gas turbine electric.
Small affordable automotive level gas turbines were reality in the 1960's. Rover put them into cars and trucks and raced with them at one point. They were crude in comparison to what we have now.....and now we have digital controls....and very high torque, low usage electric motors that can be linked to it.
You could run an electric car, no gears or transmission on a very small turbine on virtually any fuel including natural gas.
You will see some of these first....when someone (other than Tesla's toy factory) decides to finally do true mass production.
Also...in my industry....there are companies already working on conformal printed thin film batteries. Most are being used for traction batteries right now. Think a forklift battery that is 1/3 the wight and 3X the power factor and 1/4 the charge time. Been out for years now.
The same technology can print a battery in a flat plane that can be formed into say....a floor panel...instead of having a 400 lb lump of dead weight behind the back seat.
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