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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 15547 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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This is not home owner type stuff. Get someone qualified in this to do this, it is not a simple electrical problem.
On boat fora, idiots trying to lightning proof their boats abound, and are stricken. From the gene pool In flash, _________________ .ssS! |
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djkeev  Samba Moderator

Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 26211 Location: North West New Jersey
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epowell Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4350 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:38 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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Huge tree but only very slightly taller than the house itself.
I am now seriously wondering if rods really work anyway. Some friends are telling me that if we don't have a rod the lightning will be attracted to the nearby houses that DO have rods.
I looked it up and found out that actually there is no scientific research proving that rods work. Apparantly there have been no rods studies done in over 70 years. The current concensus however seems to be that they do work, but not as well as everyone seems to think.
So I'm currently sitting on the fence as to whether or not even to do anything about the issue. However the other night there was a huge storm and I couldn't sleep - I went to shut off the electrical breaker for the duration of the storm. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 15547 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:26 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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Rods do work , and yes, they do invite lightning to strike by providing a path for the initial “ streamer” that ionizes the air, which creates the path for the main discharge. The details of many things like the rod is bonded to the wire and grounded are the devil that the pro knows about, these details are subtle. It’s not just sticking things together.
There is a vast subject expertise protecting assets like power line distribution and windmill farms. _________________ .ssS! |
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 6267 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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Just found this thread. My unprofessional opinion is the first mistake was the choice of roofing material. Aluminum? Are you serious? On a building that tall? Now the whole bloody roof is a very effective lightening attractor!
Do not put any sort of ground cable through the inside of the house! That would virtually guarantee a fire! I see scorched walls and burnt ceilings as the future in that scenario!
Yes hire a professional lightening rod company to fix this and make sure they have a good insurance policy to cover their work! |
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YDBD Samba Member

Joined: February 25, 2017 Posts: 748 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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Our roof in Germany was just replaced last winter, the company removed all of the lightening rods and didn't replace them-apparently it was a thing of the past and not part of the building codes.
We do get some lightning, and looking around the neighborhood only old roof houses still have them. Our house is about the same height (3 floors) and corner lot with an open field across the street.
Check with the neighbors and city requirements, but if you believe you need them install them for piece of mind.
I would go with aluminum if you can, less weight and higher conductivity. _________________ '56 pan Dune Buggy since '69
don't live in the past...but when I did:
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epowell Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4350 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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YDBD wrote: |
Our roof in Germany was just replaced last winter, the company removed all of the lightening rods and didn't replace them-apparently it was a thing of the past and not part of the building codes.
We do get some lightning, and looking around the neighborhood only old roof houses still have them. Our house is about the same height (3 floors) and corner lot with an open field across the street.
Check with the neighbors and city requirements, but if you believe you need them install them for piece of mind.
I would go with aluminum if you can, less weight and higher conductivity. |
Yeah, I've been researching, and also getting advice from various people - and what I am hearing points in the direction that the issue is not so black/white, in that it is not so clear that they actually work so well... some say that having one can even attract a strike.
Probably if it would left up to me alone I would just get it done, but actually the house belongs to my girlfriend who tells me clearly that she can't afford it right now. . . . .
Here in Moravia, there is a lot of stormy weather in Summer, and about 50% of houses in our town have lightning rods. My only concern is that our house is pretty tall... otherwise I wouldn't bother for sure.
So for now I've decided to let go of this and hope for the best. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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AZ Landshaper  Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2009 Posts: 1640 Location: The Old Pueblo
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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With a tree that close the rods might be worth your $$. Some insurance companies will give you a credit for having lightning protection. According to my friend ( an insurance agent) there were only 100,000 lightning claims in the US last year. Is that a lot? Not sure. He thinks its very little and your chances are slim of being struck. _________________ Support Small Business.
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epowell Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4350 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:56 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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AZ Landshaper wrote: |
With a tree that close the rods might be worth your $$. Some insurance companies will give you a credit for having lightning protection. According to my friend ( an insurance agent) there were only 100,000 lightning claims in the US last year. Is that a lot? Not sure. He thinks its very little and your chances are slim of being struck. |
Thanks... it is definitely an interesting topic! _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 22644 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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some rods can be lightened a good amount some cant....and some people can lighten rods effectively and not hurt the rods.and some people can lighten the rods for swap meat usage....oh crap, rong kind of lightning rods....sorry... |
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super74beetle Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2007 Posts: 97 Location: DEtroit, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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epowell wrote: |
Hi Folks
I'm from Canada and live in the Czech Republic with my partner in a HUGE 200 year old house > we had the roof re-done with aluminum, and the guys removed the lightning rod.
I wonder if anyone can offer some advice regarding how to get some lightning protection affordably... (partial DIY?).
Thanks so much for your help.
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I have read all the posts in this thread and unless I missed it I haven't seen where a qualified electrician or contractor has replied to you. I am neither but I am a member here: https://www.garagejournal.com/. I would suggest that you become a member there and ask in the Electrical forum about your lightning rods. They may not know the codes in the Czech Republic but they know the safety aspects of electrical work. There are qualified electricians and contractors who will answer your questions.
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epowell Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4350 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Lightning Rods - SEEKING advice! |
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super74beetle wrote: |
epowell wrote: |
Hi Folks
I'm from Canada and live in the Czech Republic with my partner in a HUGE 200 year old house > we had the roof re-done with aluminum, and the guys removed the lightning rod.
I wonder if anyone can offer some advice regarding how to get some lightning protection affordably... (partial DIY?).
Thanks so much for your help.
Ed |
I have read all the posts in this thread and unless I missed it I haven't seen where a qualified electrician or contractor has replied to you. I am neither but I am a member here: https://www.garagejournal.com/. I would suggest that you become a member there and ask in the Electrical forum about your lightning rods. They may not know the codes in the Czech Republic but they know the safety aspects of electrical work. There are qualified electricians and contractors who will answer your questions.
Dennis |
Good Advice, thanks! I'll do that.
I did sign up for about 5 different homeimprovement forums and did get some good advice there... _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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