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1988M5 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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Don’t fail to take into account the small amount of “banana” of the roof when viewed from above. I had to install small spacers in the front and rear of my set up to account for it. In some of the photos you can see the nylon spacer added to keep the awning from bowing.
BK
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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1988M5 wrote: |
Don’t fail to take into account the small amount of “banana” of the roof when viewed from above. I had to install small spacers in the front and rear of my set up to account for it. In some of the photos you can see the nylon spacer added to keep the awning from bowing.
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Glad you brought this up, because I hadn’t mentioned it. This new rack design comes with 3 different types of support feet, each shaped slightly differently.
One support foot type is for the position nearest the windshield or rear hatch.
One is for the center-most positions, and the third type is placed between those other two.
Good catch!
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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outcaststudios Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2015 Posts: 1732 Location: Maine
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:28 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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pshh, my vanagon roof rack castings are way cooler looking than these. powder coated? really?! hey im sure theyre cheap to make! _________________ '88Doka JX td
'69 westy
(rip)couple bugs
(rip)three type III"s
(rip) '81 vanagon
a bunch of french stuff,and 9 motorcycles.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2573791 |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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I got my old storage box and solar panel and custom wind fairing mounted to my new roof rack.
Solar panel tilts forward on it's own hinge or backward if you open the box allowing me to prop the solar panel in two ways to maximize sun exposure.
Next up... Mounting the Rooftop Tent.
Then... The Shady Boy Awning
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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RoryGirl Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 783 Location: WestWorld Nanaimo BC
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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outcaststudios wrote: |
pshh, my vanagon roof rack castings are way cooler looking than these. powder coated? really?! hey im sure theyre cheap to make! |
Rack fight @ 100 paces to determine the winnar _________________ 1991 Double door pop top conversion |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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SyncroHead wrote: |
Glad you brought this up, because I hadn’t mentioned it. This new rack design comes with 3 different types of support feet, each shaped slightly differently.
One support foot type is for the position nearest the windshield or rear hatch.
One is for the center-most positions, and the third type is placed between those other two.
Good catch!
Jim Davis |
I mentioned above how the rack comes with three different types of support feet to accommodate the curvature of the Vanagon's roofline. Here's a few more detailed shots of these three types of support feet.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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After some production challenges (moving to a larger facility and supply chain issues), we're again ready for new orders for these racks.
The ad with pricing and more photos is here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2492828
Current schedule is orders through Aug 30th will be shipped by end of September.
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
sphet wrote: |
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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Gnarlodious Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2013 Posts: 2319 Location: Adobe Jungle USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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What’s it made out of and how much does it weigh? _________________ Vanagon ’83 diesel AAZ w/Giles injection, 5spd 4.57R&P+TBD and a '78 diesel Rabbit |
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kiltedhiker Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2016 Posts: 108
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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Full Heavy Duty Rack and Lights on my '90 Syncro
_________________ 1989 Syncro Westfalia (bought new) sold
1990 Syncro Westfalia sold
1990 Syncro TinTop |
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Schnippzle Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2021 Posts: 288 Location: Swede in London, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:16 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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I do love a good roof rack. Will you be offering siderails for the racks? |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32576 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:56 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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Thoughts from N. Picker.
I hope you are using 316 stainless. 18-2 or anything less than 316 will rust. Especially near salt water--meaning 10 miles. Stainless steel is Stain-Less steel. But the lesser grades will rust.
The side pieces are split in half. Is that why there are so many feet? To keep them straight and not flex. Wonder what the moment connection is between the two........
Weight? As we all know these cars, to quote someone, "corner like an over ripe tomato". Which leads to the question, why do you want to put so much weight up there anyway? Which is why Im assuming the rack is so rugged.
Wind noise? Gas mileage?
Outcast, we haven't heard from you in a while. Are you still making and selling them? You may remember a design competitor when you were first developing your racks--Orly Blau Van Agon. He went on to develop a company for his design which he just sold to Thule for 8.3 million. Let's see some of your most recent designs in another topic so this doesn't get highjacked. For example, what would happen if you were able to have feet which could accommodate a pipe of the customers preference for the length of the rack. Then have other castings--or not-- which would allow cross members to be attached--wood, pipe, square tubing, whatever people want. This would allow for seriously rugged racks without shipping issues. The feet could have the ability to have risers so the rack could become a tray. Or the feet could attach to aluminum extension ladder rails using the rung stubs for cross member connections.....or what about using............. |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:07 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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Gnarlodious wrote: |
What’s it made out of and how much does it weigh? |
The side rails and cross bars are aluminum. The support feet and gutter clamps are steel. All powder-coated. Fasteners are stainless steel with black-oxide coating where visible and non-coated stainless steel on the inside.
Weight for the heavy-duty version (12 total support feet) is about 105-110lbs
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:11 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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Schnippzle wrote: |
I do love a good roof rack. Will you be offering siderails for the racks? |
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by "siderails".
Can you explain further?
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
sphet wrote: |
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys? |
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Schnippzle Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2021 Posts: 288 Location: Swede in London, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:23 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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SyncroHead wrote: |
Schnippzle wrote: |
I do love a good roof rack. Will you be offering siderails for the racks? |
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by "siderails".
Can you explain further?
Jim Davis |
Sorry, should have been more clear. Like the expedition rail that Front Runner offer for their racks. |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9603 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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This could be more of a concern if the van is parked in a salt environment. There needs to be an electrolyte between the two metals to cause the ruckus.
The Aluminum far outsizing the stainless reduces risk.
Add that the Aluminum is coated ~100%.
As well as the fasteners.
There are more than a few Aluminum overland rack examples that have been on the market for some years, are they doing OK?
The ones I've seen are OK.
That's a wicked rack !
I bet a lighter-weight, low-profile version for a Westfalia would sell fairly well. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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How exactly is the clamping force to the gutter achieved? By this, I mean the pinching together force with the support down into the gutter and the underneath clamp pulling up. It appears that with slotted holes, the pieces are forced together by hand rather than a screwing clamping action and then tightened. And do you have a pic showing what the part of the tower landing on the inside of the gutter looks like? |
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kiltedhiker Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2016 Posts: 108
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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DuncanS wrote: |
How exactly is the clamping force to the gutter achieved? |
I used a pistol grip clamp to force the two pieces together then tightened the bolts and nuts. The rack is not going anywhere. _________________ 1989 Syncro Westfalia (bought new) sold
1990 Syncro Westfalia sold
1990 Syncro TinTop |
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SyncroHead Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: New Roof Rack for Vanagons |
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kiltedhiker wrote: |
Full Heavy Duty Rack and Lights on my '90 Syncro
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Nice shots kiltedhiker!
Jim Davis _________________ "A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"
Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org
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