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Turnswrenches
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 Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Got it out of the basement and up to the garage now. 
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| sled wrote: |
for the full flow fittings, it looks like you need a standard oil pump cover with the single outlet that comes out at 9 o'clock, and a standard 90 deg NPT brass fitting for the return to the case.
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I got some brass fittings in today.
Looks like this will work.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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txoval
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:45 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Maybe answered elsewhere, but why are you running an In/Out cover? Is it an In/Out pump?
Will that cover work on a standard pump? Unfortunately I do not know the answer, but I’d look into it.
I have a red CB pump cover (normal full flow) if you want it. |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:22 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| txoval wrote: |
Maybe answered elsewhere, but why are you running an In/Out cover? Is it an In/Out pump?
Will that cover work on a standard pump? Unfortunately I do not know the answer, but I’d look into it.
I have a red CB pump cover (normal full flow) if you want it. |
Its a CB in/out pump and cover.
I plugged the port in the left half of the case and plugged the "in" side of the pump.
I opted to return oil to the engine at the external fitting instead of the leaky pump to case transition.
I had this already purchased before I decided to go with a full flow setup.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:36 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Made a few more hoses for it yesterday.
Still need to decide on a "wife-friendly" clutch combo.
Was thinking a Kennedy stage 1 and Daiken disk ?
Any opinions on this ?
Also thinking maybe I should go through these carbs or send them out before trying to fire (and potentially flood) the engine.
Any suggestions on carb specialist ?
Current carb specs:
Weber 44IDF's
38mm venturi's
55 idles
165 mains
190 airs
F11 tubes
55 bowl jet
50 nozzles
No idea what needle/seat combo
Latest pics:
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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Teeroy 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Send the carbs to Dave at Blackline
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mark tucker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| Turnswrenches wrote: |
| sled wrote: |
for the full flow fittings, it looks like you need a standard oil pump cover with the single outlet that comes out at 9 o'clock, and a standard 90 deg NPT brass fitting for the return to the case.
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I got some brass fittings in today.
Looks like this will work.
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I hope you did a lot of work to that 90 degree brass fitting that dont flow for squat.... a tubular an fitting would of been much better. some of those brass are real small and restrictive. some are almost the right size but need some good porting in the turn. might check the 45 brass fitting you have also, lots of them are smaller than they should be.and sharp corrner that should be relieved for better flow like the 90 needs.
as for the clutch my 2332 drove through the kushloc&stage 1 kep. the cb duel fricksion&stage 1 should work good, and use the long arm on the trans to make it wife &cable frendly. weddle has the best prices on the longer arms, 2 sizes small shaft & large shaft. bruce up in canaida also usually has them. |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
I hope you did a lot of work to that 90 degree brass fitting that dont flow for squat.... a tubular an fitting would of been much better. some of those brass are real small and restrictive. some are almost the right size but need some good porting in the turn. might check the 45 brass fitting you have also, lots of them are smaller than they should be.and sharp corrner that should be relieved for better flow like the 90 needs.
as for the clutch my 2332 drove through the kushloc&stage 1 kep. the cb duel fricksion&stage 1 should work good, and use the long arm on the trans to make it wife &cable frendly. weddle has the best prices on the longer arms, 2 sizes small shaft & large shaft. bruce up in canaida also usually has them. |
I have some other fittings on order that I will swap in when they arrive.
One is a 90 degree swivel hose end with a 3/8npt thread. It looks promising.
I also have a 45 degree an fitting for the pump i havent swapped in yet.
So... both those brass fittings will be out in a few days. 
Heres what im going to try in place of the brass 90.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents
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mark tucker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| also.... you should run the oe type ve oil filter screen, that bottom plate should be drilled for it already, if not just drill&tap a few holes. also the last pic of the rockers you didnt have the lash caps on...I hope you put them on...I wood also brought the deck down to .040" also..did you check the pick up tube length& bottom clearance?( witch may change with adding the oe type screen to keep boogers out of your oil pump...) also. I disagree with the run a qt low.possiably a pint low. but the oil level needs to be covering the oil pump suction port in the case and pump...so it dont suck air there witch aint good. be sure to change oil&filer after 35-40 min, than agin after about another hour of life so your bearings dont get filled with shit like the old bearings were....I do about 5 oil & filter changes in the first week on all my stuff. oil is cheep. and a cloged filter bypasses all the dibris to the bearings& cooler...ever seen a clogged cooler I have. coolers are shit magnets. |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| also.... you should run the oe type ve oil filter screen, that bottom plate should be drilled for it already, if not just drill&tap a few holes. also the last pic of the rockers you didnt have the lash caps on...I hope you put them on...I wood also brought the deck down to .040" also..did you check the pick up tube length& bottom clearance?( witch may change with adding the oe type screen to keep boogers out of your oil pump...) also. I disagree with the run a qt low.possiably a pint low. but the oil level needs to be covering the oil pump suction port in the case and pump...so it dont suck air there witch aint good. be sure to change oil&filer after 35-40 min, than agin after about another hour of life so your bearings dont get filled with shit like the old bearings were....I do about 5 oil & filter changes in the first week on all my stuff. oil is cheep. and a cloged filter bypasses all the dibris to the bearings& cooler...ever seen a clogged cooler I have. coolers are shit magnets. |
Boy you dont miss a thing...
Yes I have lash caps on... and yes, the sump was plug n play. The oem screen bolts to the plate. It came threaded and had hardware with it.
If I had known I was adding the sump before I put the case halves together, i would have measured the extension and tigged it to the factory tube.
Right now everything fits together pretty well... but yeah the connection point is still a concern with regards to sucking air.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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mark tucker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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CB makes a extra long tube.....  
I ran the earls 90 tubular on mine.
Now if I could figure out that cut&paste skills you have I wood be set!!!  |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Theres a chance I may fire this motor up sometime tomorrow... (Saturday) unless the wife ropes me into one of her projects.
I have everything ready to go, but had to wait till tomorrow AM for the fuel pump since Autozone was out of them.
It took about 8.5 quarts of Amsoil SAE30 break-in oil to fill the lines and filter and put it a little above the top line on the dipstick. (overfilled for break-in)
Hopefully the carbs arent screwed up. I havent touched them since I pulled them off last Fall.
I had a junk trans I used as a donor for the starter mount.
The stand is carrying all the weight... the wood is just keeping the motor from rotating.
Its stupid top-heavy on this mickeymouse engine stand.
The last two pics you can see the cheap oil pressure guage mounted.
(I had to put the motor back in the corner so wife could get her 4runner back in the garage.)
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents
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jpaull
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Very cool man! Its exciting getting ready for the first start up. I would really encourage you to just use the stand for cam break in, and not run it any more till you can get it in the car and get a load on it. If you run it much on the stand the nice tooth of the cross hatch will be lost and putting a load on it wont seat the rings as welll.
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| jpaull wrote: |
| Very cool man! Its exciting getting ready for the first start up. I would really encourage you to just use the stand for cam break in, and not run it any more till you can get it in the car and get a load on it. If you run it much on the stand the nice tooth of the cross hatch will be lost and putting a load on it wont seat the rings as welll. |
Yeah that totally makes sense.
I also dont have any oil cooler on it whatsoever.
Hoping that wont be an issue since I have 8+ quarts splashing around in there and extra surface area of the sump to help cool it.
I have to get a cooler on order and decide how/where to mount it on the car.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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sled
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:57 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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you're going to run it for 20 minutes at 2500 rpm with no oil cooler?
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| sled wrote: |
| you're going to run it for 20 minutes at 2500 rpm with no oil cooler? |
Ran it for 10 minutes.
Ill let it cool down and repeat.
There is zero load on the engine and its only about 65 degrees here.
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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Turnswrenches
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:58 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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71 Superbeetle, stock 1641DP with Weber progressive
Railbuggy with 2332
Scat 4340 84mm crank
5.5 H-beams
Mahle 94mm pistons
AA jugs
Grant rings
CB2292 cam + straight cut gears
46/37.5 CNC Wedgeports
Pauter 1.5's
Big Beef intakes
44IDF's/38 vents |
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King_vw61
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:00 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Sounds good. We broke mine in with no oil cooler either. Never got hot.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:32 am Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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| ivkings4 wrote: |
| Sounds good. We broke mine in with no oil cooler either. Never got hot. |
X2. Looks like you had the carbs and timing set well for the breakin.
Nice work there!
Time to get it installed and, Drive it like you stole it! 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: OK... Lets build a 2332 now ! |
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Nice work, looks and sounds great!!! I'm also working on my 2332 and just made a serious attempt to degree my FK46 cam. I measure .402" lift at the PR and 265 degrees of duration @ .050" vs the .409"/273 degrees on the cam card.
I like your exhaust and muffler. Right now all I have for mine is a stinger. I know my neighbors are going to hate me when I test fire it to break in the cam.
Keep the updates coming, can't wait to hear how your engine moves the car down the road, I bet it will really haul the mail!
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