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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:13 am Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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You have a 30 PICT 2 Carburetor and a DVDA distributor which will not play well together. Better to use the non vacuum distributor off of the 1200 except that it is a cheap knock off clone 009. Id run either a 113 M or T with the 30 PICT which is a factory matched pairing. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
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starboy Samba Member
Joined: June 29, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: PA
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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So just getting back to this, looks like I have some work to do in relation to swapping over some parts from the 40 to the 1600 (Which is a 1500 with 1600 pistons as noted earlier).
Here's my shopping/work list (and again thanks for everyone's input, and if you see anything that doesn't add up, or have a better suggestion let me know!)
Went ahead and took a few pictures of my starter situation. I should have noted at the beginning of this thread that I bought this car as it's pictured (well, of course, it ran with the 40 before it decided to die), I never did any of these modifications hence why with this swap I'm trying to make everything somewhat properly done.
Clearly some evidence of metal shavings in the above housing. I'm thinking this isn't the proper starter for this?
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9653 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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Your last 2 bullet items are not essential. The fuel pump you now have on the 1200 obviously fits despite the wide alternator body. Just transfer that pump to the 1500. Same logic for the distributor. The one on your 40 hp is a centrifugal-only advance. It will work decently on the 1500 as long as you plug the vacuum port on the carb. |
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rcooled Samba Member
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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Loosen up the axle boot inner/outer clamps and rotate the boot seams to 3 or 9 O'clock positions. Having the stiff seams at 12 O'clock will tear up the boots sooner than later.
When you tighten the clamps back down, do the inner one first. Then push the outer end of the boots in toward the transaxle about 3/16" and then tighten the outer clamps. This makes it so the boots do not stretch too much when you jack the rear end wheels off the ground. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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Also get the thermostatic flaps installed now. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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The uh oh 9 distributor and the 30 PICT 2 carburetor will work ok. The better or best choice if you stay with that carburetor is a 113 905 205 M distributor which is the factory matched pairing.
Do a classifieds search using "1968 distributor" and you will find a selection from various sellers of used cores an restored examples. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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I'd run a 113905205T SVA distributor in your single port engine application with the 30-2 carb. That combo was used on 1968 and 1969 engines.
I run both on my restored 1969 bug engine. It's a great combo and much better than an 009. The 009 responds only to RPM's where the 205T responds to engine load.
Here's the 205T and 30-2 carb on my engine.
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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Factually the only difference between the 113 M and 113 T is that the 113 T uses the taller cap and rotor. The 113 T distributor was factory matched to the 30 PICT 3 in 1969 and 1970. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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tasb wrote: |
Factually the only difference between the 113 M and 113 T is that the 113 T uses the taller cap and rotor. The 113 T distributor was factory matched to the 30 PICT 3 in 1969 and 1970. |
The 30-3 carbs were not installed on VW's until August of 1969 for the 1970 model year, thus they used the 30-2 carb in 1969 matched to the 205T distributor.
VW 126-3 30PICT-2 113905205T BUG 1500 2/69 x116 125z 0.60 w/o ball USA Manual
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9653 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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wcfvw69- gawsh your engine looks excellent! A treat to see an engine so close to correctness. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:17 am Post subject: Re: 1200 to 1600 SP (Am I doing this right?) |
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Rome wrote: |
wcfvw69- gawsh your engine looks excellent! A treat to see an engine so close to correctness. |
Thanks! _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
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