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charleslabri
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 Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:28 am Post subject: Clutch linkage |
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I pulled the engine today and saw this. Wtf is going on here. Missing a part? Everything works, but I’d rather put the right part in.
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Ahwahnee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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I don't think anything is missing but the position of that arm doesn't look right to me.
Possibly someone added the Craftsman socket to take up a gap caused by an internal problem? |
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westydriver
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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| I'm one for half assin a job but that is next level genius. |
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charleslabri
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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@halfassinvanagonassasin did the work I think.
Anyone have any idea what internally would cause this to sit like that? |
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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stock engine/flywheel?
Slave cylinder looks like a newer aftermarket type? Issue there? Posts here of that possibility? I seem to recall that there was a fairly recent post about clutch slave travel.
Failing forks at clutch cross shaft?
Air in hydraulics?
It would be nearly impossible to install the operating lever indexed incorrectly.
The cross shaft bushings (outer) would have to be incredibly worn out to allow lever to sit further down, were that even possible.
Neil.
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old_man
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
I seem to recall that there was a fairly recent post about clutch slave travel.
It would be nearly impossible to install the operating lever indexed incorrectly.
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I believe the thread you remember was about the wrong lever being installed. Two kinds out there that index differently.
Edit: 251 141 713 B for gas, 251 141 713 C for diesel. |
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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| old_man wrote: |
| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
| I seem to recall that there was a fairly recent post about clutch slave travel. |
I believe the thread you remember was about the wrong lever being installed. Two kinds out there that index differently.
Edit: 251 141 713 B for gas, 251 141 713 C for diesel. |
Thanks. That may well be. This may be the thread:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=738721&highlight=clutch+lever+length
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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There's my socket. Wondered where it got to. Now I can stop wondering about where it went.
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charleslabri
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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I don’t know what’s stock and what’s not (stock aircooled). Recommend taking the trans out and checking it out?
Ran fine when I was driving it around |
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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Ok. I'd wondered that if the engine was not stock and used an adaptor plate, (especially a home made plate), would that plate thickness affect distance of clutch pressure plate fingers to throw out bearing.
Neil.
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Viva.Sabata
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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I think you’re missing the bolt that made up the distance between the socket and the plunger. And, yeah, I thought I might’ve been my missing socket too, but it’s not 10mm 😜😜😜
I’ve actually done this on a wearing clutch disk when I was 17. It lasted about a week before I was replaced it. I agree - tear it down now before you get stranded somewhere
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dgbeatty
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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There are two different lengths of slave cylinder push rods.
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charleslabri
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Clutch linkage |
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| There are two different lengths of slave cylinder push rods. |
example?
What years had the different ones? Which ones is shorter/longer? |
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charleslabri
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