The 447th 1972 bus, A Sierra Yellow Westfalia Tin top build

[busdaddy]

[Ceckert64]

Okay, I uploaded a pictures, here’s the rust under the seat, sorry for the really crappy picture

What is this part? Is it engine related? It has grease and grime on the back of it

And here’s the super hacked up wire I found to the radio it’s impressive how bad it is.

Thanks for the information, I had grabbed a gas door from a 72 but it’s rough so I was curious if I could get a better one. For the splash pan, skid plate, when I fitted it up it didn’t line up right and there needed to be a ridge, so I think they are different. The one is 73+ but I thought I had read about a 72 only one, I could be wrong.

I will definitely go D-jet, I don’t have all the parts for it but there are a ton at the junkyard, I think the bus FI gets picked over because there are so many more people needing it for their bus/ building up extras where as Type 3s, 411, 412, don’t get picked over and there aren’t many people that have them/ need parts for them. I will look for an engine hanger from a bus. Thanks for the help!
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1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop

[ivwshane]

The long black piece is a bumper gravel guard and attaches to the bottom of the rear bumper.
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77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
70 single cab

[busdaddy]

I don't recall the 72 pedal pan being odd, but I've been wrong before, the brake cables do some odd things in 72, maybe it's customized for clearance?, or maybe the bus you robbed it from had the wrong one installed by a PO? Here's some reading on them: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=597785&highlight=pedal+pan

That rust behind the seat usually results from the bottle of brake fluid that was stored there leaking, add some missing vapor barriers behind the door cards so water gets in constantly and that's the result.
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[Ceckert64]

[busdaddy]

[Ceckert64]

So I’ve done some researching, reading the ratwell site and have decided on an 1800 engine since the peak power and torque is at lower RPM. I think I will buy both the 411 and 412 engines from the junk yard so I have spares, being in Michigan, I won’t have to deal with smog stuff and depending on the years of the 411/412, they might not have smog stuff on them. Another question would be is that changing the pistons from domed to dished with the original D-jet give me issues with fuel/air ratio? Or would it just be the idle adjustment having to be increased set the base line? Has anyone had a D-jet bus or will this be a first if I do it? For the 412, it looks like I would have to add the oil dip stick hole, tube and studs to run it on the bus? I will cross this bridge when I get there but should I probably get a Type 4 manual for the D-jet fuel injection or should I be able to find enough online for it? My Bentley Service Manual arrived in the mail today for the bus, really nice used one

Right now I’m also trying to figure out a good tire that is 14in with the correct load rating. The tires on the bus have a ton of tread left and barely driven on and have the correct load rating but there are a few hairline cracks from dry rot so those are no good for if I take a longer trip.

I also had been looking at some aircooled school videos of sliding door, mine was pretty good but not quite there yet, I was watching it as it opened and noticed the top roller wasn’t spinning, so I took it of and it was turning really hard but I figured it was old grease. So I heated it up the top side of it and it turned the grease to oil and I guess there was an air pocket at the top that expanded with heat and popped it right off. I cleaned the old grease off and put new in and it spins freely. I went through and greased the door in various areas and adjusted the lock plate. The bus is on a slight slope backwards a couple degrees, but I can push down on the handle with one finger and it releases and the door flys back it works so good now and is so smooth. The top roller really helped.

I will probably keep posting questions here and there, I will probably start working on it a lot once I finish up my bug. I’ve been busy working and it’s been so hot to get much work done and I don’t feel like it after I’ve already been working outside all day. School will be starting next week for me so I will probably have more time to work on it and make progress as backwards as it sounds.

Thanks for the help in advance!
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1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop

[busdaddy]

Raygreenwood may be able to answer the D-jet questions, Amskeptic has posted a number of sliding door refresh topics, time to figure out the search function here. (hint: search "Refresh" by author "Amskeptic" and choose "search title only")
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[Chickensoup]

Ah, I've been looking for this thread i feel awkward posting in the bay forum but hey, maybe I'll a thing or 50...
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'66 RIP
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[Ceckert64]

[Ceckert64]

I got the engines for the bus! One is a 1971 411 D-jet engine; the other is a 412 I believe, D-jet; a 74-75 fridge stove cabinet; a nice wheel; and a ton of other parts. The 411 is on the tires in the pic.

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1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop

[mikewire]

Right on!!

Uhhh, that is one hell of a parts stash!!
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1972 VW Kombi 9 Passenger Deluxe w/ 2.0L F.I. VWAC swap
1965 VW Beetle Deluxe Bahama Blue

[wagohn]

Out of curiosity, what do they charge you for a haul like that? Judging by Samba classifieds prices, should be close to $5k .
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[Ceckert64]

[richparker]

Nice score!

I made a phone call last summer and asked if I could go shopping at my local graveyard. Luckily the gentleman I called was able to get me in. I brought $500 with me and planned on doing some shopping. I got everything I wanted (Except a rear bumper) and then some. I laid out all the parts and he told me I could just have them. 🙀 In the end I gave him $100 and took the guy who got me into the graveyard to lunch. Gotta love those old timers!!!!! Good luck with your build! ✌🏻
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[Ceckert64]

[Ceckert64]

I remember I was looking in the trailers and old school busses to find the best T4 engines and I saw the cabinet protruding up and thought, “hey! That’s a 74-75 cabinet, but what would my luck be that, that it has the stove fridge combo?” Well, I guess I got lucky Here are some from the cabinet. It was a bit of a barn find just a little dust

I’m letting it run overnight to see how cold it will get.
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1964 sunroof Beetle Restoration "Herbie"
“Joann” 1970 Elm Green Squareback
1972 Sierra Yellow Tin Top Westfalia Camper
“Fitz” 1971 Westfalia Poptop

[Chickensoup]

yes, the 412 engine has rust in the top of the cylinder. or cylinders. dont evenrotate it another mm. your will put scratches on the tops of te cylinder edges and mess with the walls and rings if its more than even minimal corrosion.

find out cylinder is corroded, and remove the head. 9/10 the cylinders garbage. either way the hone finish and wall surface will be trashed, and can catch and break a ring.

check endplay, check oil, and if you have the cylinders out, pull on the rods for any definenf no no's.

the 411 may be a better choice. before you know it you will be knees deep in the 412. trust me, i know
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-'85 c10 5.3 LS, 222 cam, long tubes, x pipe, 3 inch spin tech's
-'05 B5.5 TDI Wagon 17in sport rims ;EGR + BSM + ASV Delete, Stage-2 Tune, straight pipe
'65 Tourist Delivery Build
'66 RIP
'69 RIP
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"

[Ceckert64]