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DinoMotors Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2020 Posts: 2 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:01 am Post subject: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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Hello everybody
I have found an exciting Type 3 Variant (369). With injector, automatic, no rust and few miles (yes miles) on the speedometer. But the car has been mostly stationary the last 25 years.
Now I wanted to turn the engine by hand to see if everything is free so far. With the Beetle a little thing, only with the correct open-end wrench at the back of the crankshaft and turn.
With type 3 it is not so easy. After the crankshaft follows the case with the fan wheel and the hose connection to the air ducts. The rubber sleeve is gone, but I can hardly get into the area of the crankshaft.
I don't want to remove the whole engine or disassemble it into small pieces yet at the moment.
Does anyone have a trick or tip?
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FastyOrange Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 111 Location: Greenville, SC
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:34 am Post subject: Re: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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All you need to do is remove the cover from the pulley shroud (this is found right in front of your generator). There are two clips, one on either side that need to be released in order for it to come off. You can then put a wrench on the nut for the generator pulley and turn the motor. You may have to put some tension on the belt in order to create enough friction to turn the larger pulley.
I can't remember what size the generator nut is as I installed an alternator years ago. For me, a 10mm socket on a low profile socket wrench does the trick along with light pressure on the belt as I turn. I hope this helps...good luck!
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22728 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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FastyOrange wrote: |
All you need to do is remove the cover from the pulley shroud (this is found right in front of your generator). There are two clips, one on either side that need to be released in order for it to come off. You can then put a wrench on the nut for the generator pulley and turn the motor. You may have to put some tension on the belt in order to create enough friction to turn the larger pulley.
I can't remember what size the generator nut is as I installed an alternator years ago. For me, a 10mm socket on a low profile socket wrench does the trick along with light pressure on the belt as I turn. I hope this helps...good luck!
Jon |
It's either a 19mm or 21mm, actually. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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FastyOrange Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2012 Posts: 111 Location: Greenville, SC
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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For my 55 amp Geo Metro alternator, it is a 10mm nut. Glad someone knew the size for the stock generator!
Jon _________________ 72 FI Fastback
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34013 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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I usually squeeze the belt while using a crescent wrench.
I leave my belt looser than on a Bug since it's not driving thge fan, just the generator, and its easier on the belt and gen bearings. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: How to turn a Type 3 engine by hand, while still in the car? |
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$5 Remote Starter Button from Harbor Freight comes in handy working by yourself!
It might turn it over, but won't hurt anything if it can't.
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