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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:40 pm    Post subject: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

It has been over 2 years since I took this apart. I remember it being asymmetrical. That is, I believe the same bracket is used on both sides. Orientation of the brackets and which holes in the brackets to use... has faded from my memory. I had a hard time finding any pictures on here that showed me enough detail, or told me which side the CLOSE-UP was taken from. And the engine was always in the way. Not here boys.....

So do I have this right?


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Just dry fitting stuff before I get the heavy engine in there and determine I have something wrong.

DRIVER'S side

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

Im guessing you have the later 1700 engine. The mustache bar fastens to the motor before installing the engine...and becomes evident as the dip is for clearance on the a.alternator
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

Looks right to me, don't forget to put the bar on before the exhaust as well..

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

Anyone else think this is correct?

Remember this is a dry run. I am not leaving it here. I want to know EXACTLY how to mount the brackets and EXACTLY how to mount the bar. THIS IS NOT STAYING HERE.

I measured from each mount hole in the "dip" of the mustache to the outside of the frame on each side. I figured that was a way to check it the engine would be centered.


driver side hole to driver side frame = 19-1/2"
pass side hole to pass side frame = 20"

While that is not THE SAME, I really don't see another way to mount this thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

pioneer1 wrote:
Im guessing you have the later 1700 engine. The mustache bar fastens to the motor before installing the engine...and becomes evident as the dip is for clearance on the a.alternator


Maybe.... but i think it is clearance for the vertical pipe that comes up from the HE thru the tin and has the AUX fan hose attached to it.

Yes, I am pretty sure I said this is a DRY FIT. they don't have those in the great white north?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

Study the pics in your Bentley manual, those mounts are often caught in the background of another procedures pictures.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

The mount was design to fit around the alternator and the duct work was designed to miss both the bar and the alternator. As others said you have to install the bar in the correct sequence or you will be pulling things back apart to get it on. I would guess that most of us have had to redo certain steps in putting this part of the engine package together at least once.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
I would guess that most of us have had to redo certain steps in putting this part of the engine package together at least once.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

KentABQ wrote:
Wildthings wrote:
I would guess that most of us have had to redo certain steps in putting this part of the engine package together at least once.

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I keep looking at your posts and thinking “Who’s the new guy?” I’m a little slow..... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

The 72 mustache bar functions the same, the only difference being the brackets that attach from bar to bus. They have a taller shape to them. The bar will attach to the engine mounts one way, I seem to recall there's just enough offset to only allow one way of attaching it to the engine before exhaust, and to hoist the engine/mustache bar into the bus as a unit.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

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I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.

Unless it's a Brazilian built bus, they use a different mount system with no bar.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.

Unless it's a Brazilian built bus, they use a different mount system with no bar.

How would I find that out, mine seems to have two motor mounts near the bumper. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

SantaBubba wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.

Unless it's a Brazilian built bus, they use a different mount system with no bar.

How would I find that out, mine seems to have two motor mounts near the bumper. Thanks


Post some pics of your bus, we'll let you know what you have.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.

Unless it's a Brazilian built bus, they use a different mount system with no bar.

How would I find that out, mine seems to have two motor mounts near the bumper. Thanks


Post some pics of your bus, we'll let you know what you have.

Ok will do tomorrow thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

SantaBubba wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
babysnakes wrote:
SantaBubba wrote:
I have a 1970 bus, it doesn’t have a mustache bar, is this normal


Your '70 needs a bar. They look different that the '72 and onward buses.

Unless it's a Brazilian built bus, they use a different mount system with no bar.

How would I find that out, mine seems to have two motor mounts near the bumper. Thanks


Post some pics of your bus, we'll let you know what you have.

Ok will do tomorrow thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: 72 mustache bar.... Is this right? Reply with quote

the horns are where the ends of the mustache bar sit. It is held to the engine with 3 bolts. The rubber mounts go between the bar and horns on the frame.

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